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Comment by vincnetas

8 hours ago

well on one side you have huge military on other side you have a pile of rocks that used to be a city. so comparing these its does not make israel look better.

I dont care about making Isreal look good. I'm just pointing out that both sides use violent rhetoric because as you can see from this thread people did not know. I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.

  • Palestinians aren't claiming to be the only democracy in the Middle East and all that shit.

    If individual Israelis want to claim they're not monsters, what Palestinians do or doesn't do doesn't enter into it, only the actions and deeds ( or lack thereof) of the Israelis in question do, and how that meets or fails to meet specific standards of morality. The same goes for Palestinians.

    > I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.

    So, collective punishment. Don't bother about the "violent rhetoric" of any "sides", deal with what you just said and what that says about you.

  • and i'm pointing out, that there is concept of credible threat. One thing is when bum in the street shouts at passing by cars that he's gonna kill them all and throws some stones, and another is when armed swat team at your door points machine gun at you ant tell you they going to kill you.

  • Well you can both sides it all you want but european zionists are invaders that have been stealing land since the 40s and palestinians are the ones being invaded and robbed. I promise you Americans would be saying crazy shit if someone invaded and occupied their land.

    • > european zionist invaders

      I never thought I'd see this kind of blatant anti-semitism on HN.

      Jews in Europe were persecuted for hundreds of years as foreign invaders told to go back to their homeland. Immediately after the Holocaust, we realized it was time to return to our own country; we could not rely on the kindness of European nations.

      And now that we have returned, we're labelled invaders of our own nation, our historic homeland of 3,500 years. But Jews have been in Jerusalem longer than the British have been in London. We built Tel Aviv from a desert into a modern city. We rebuilt Jerusalem and opened it up to Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

      It's wild historic revisionism to claim Jews are stealing Arab lands. There are over 30 Muslim- and Arab-majority nations. There is only a single Jewish nation: our historic, 3,500 year old homeland: Israel.

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These pile of rocks were funded by Qatar and that money could’ve been used to build schools instead of funding Hamas tunnels.

  • Wasn't Hamas technically funded by Natanyahu for the explicit goal of dividing Palestinian leadership and to ensure that extremists had both money and power so that he always had justification to wipe out Palestine ?

    Look at how evil this group is -> genocide of their entire state is good! (Don't look at the fact that I demanded that this group is explicitly funded - that is not important)

  • > These pile of rocks were funded by Qatar and that money could’ve been used to build schools

    Just so Israel would have had more schools to bomb.

But only one side did October 7th and seems like they had more than sticks and stones. It would appear as if someone (Hamas) decided to literally put every penny they had into weaponizing Gaza, even going as far as tearing water pipes out of the ground to make rockets which they fire on Israeli civilian population.