Comment by hokumguru
1 day ago
Is it pettiness or just sticking to their morals? Murena, as they mentioned, forwards data to OpenAI which is against pretty much everything Graphene stands for.
1 day ago
Is it pettiness or just sticking to their morals? Murena, as they mentioned, forwards data to OpenAI which is against pretty much everything Graphene stands for.
It is pettiness: watch them below spread their hate of Fairphone in the comments below… (I counted the almost same message being posted 13 times)
It's absolutely OK to disagree with another project's security stance, but spending your time going to the HN comment section of the other project's announcement and spamming disparaging comments there isn't, at all.
Only for one voice to text feature which is completely optional to use and can be replaced with something else.
As another commenter mentioned, this voice to text feature is now an offline feature and no longer sends data outside the device.
As another note, this Fairphone can be purchased without /e/OS at all. It’s now being sold in the US without Murena being involved at all.
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> Murena, as they mentioned, forwards data to OpenAI which is against pretty much everything Graphene stands for.
How? In what way? Source?
https://community.e.foundation/t/voice-to-text-feature-using...
June 2025
Someone else shared the up to date info about this feature: https://doc.e.foundation/os/apps/voice-to-text
> The earlier Voice to Text was a Premium-only, online feature: it streamed your speech to a third-party AI transcription service through an anonymising proxy, so it required a Murena Workspace Premium subscription and an internet connection.
> The new Voice to Text is free, offline and on-device
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You can stick to your morals without blowing things out of proportion.
“We are the only acceptable way to do things and no tradeoffs are acceptable” is fairly petty.
“We have a difference of opinion” isn’t.
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It is not petty to correct misinformation. You are downplaying the seriousness of the situation by painting it as some kind of drama. /e/OS objectively has poor privacy and security for numerous reasons, there was no "falling out", and GrapheneOS is not critiquing it based on emotion.
GrapheneOS is a privacy project first, does not come bundled with any google services, and only makes connections to 1st party services by default. /e/OS includes many google services with privileged OS integration. GrapheneOS is far more effective at the goal you state /e/OS has than /e/OS.
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And yet GrapheneOS is better at everything that /e/ claims.
Not at running on sustainably produced, repairable hardware ;)
(Wish it was though.)
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The e/OS/ CEO said during an interview [1] that GrapheneOS, being a security hardened product, was especially useful for p*ophiles to evade justice. This is totally unacceptable. People defending e/OS/ (and Murena, same people, just branding for devices) are either dishonest or useful idiots.
[1] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171 (full interview at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQV7498NRQw)
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In the current version of /e/OS, Voice to Text runs offline.
> The earlier Voice to Text was a Premium-only, online feature: it streamed your speech to a third-party AI transcription service [...] The new Voice to Text is free, offline and on-device
https://doc.e.foundation/os/apps/voice-to-text