{"id":49348077,"user":"Gormo","time":1787070197,"time_ago":"20 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

It's also extremely expensive. I'm more interested on seeing the next iteration of the PinePhone to fulfill the full Linux phone dream. In the meantime, commodity Android phones are still good enough.","comments":[{"id":49348171,"user":"fsflover","time":1787070533,"time_ago":"20 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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Not just significantly weaker. The Librem 5 uses the Cortex-A53 low-end ARM designs from 2012, and that particular NXP chip is not among the better implementations. The 3GB of RAM is anemic and becomes a greater restriction as time goes on. Many features simply haven't been implemented (most of the sensors) and those that have been that are technically difficult (i.e. camera) provide only a bare experience.

If we're honest about it, the Librem 5 is not something to use as your main phone, it's a toy to experiment with.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=49352538"},{"id":49351393,"user":"handedness","time":1787081690,"time_ago":"17 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

> no proprietary drivers unlike anything else on the market

You continue to be misleading with your wording.

https://docs.puri.sm/Hardware/Librem_5/Maintenance/Modem.htm...

You dishonestly promote an $800 product in comment after comment.

Hiding your obvious shilling behind the moral cloak of "activism" is pathetic. It's worse than pathetic, as it runs the risk of harming genuine activism.","comments":[{"id":49351572,"time":1787082352,"time_ago":"17 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"[deleted]","deleted":true,"comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":4,"url":"item?id=49351572"},{"id":49351611,"user":"fsflover","time":1787082504,"time_ago":"17 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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They really probably aren't going to get lifetime updates to their modem's closed-source firmware. They can't even get timely updates to their modem's closed-source firmware.

It's great that the OS is open source, it really is. But all bits going out over the cellular radio are handled by proprietary firmware, same as every other phone out there.

Educate me: Is there a way to know when the modem's firmware needs updating? When was the last update shipped?","comments":[{"id":49352442,"user":"fsflover","time":1787085917,"time_ago":"16 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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> I never claimed the lifetime updates for the modem, did I?

Exactly. You get very precise when you want to paint the device as a panacea of liberty, to the point of potentially misleading people.

The rest of the time, not so much.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":7,"url":"item?id=49352852"},{"id":49352766,"user":"handedness","time":1787087472,"time_ago":"16 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

What about patching security vulnerabilities? Privacy enhancements?

How would I know when the firmware needs updating? How can I find when it was last updated?","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":7,"url":"item?id=49352766"}],"comments_count":2,"level":6,"url":"item?id=49352442"}],"comments_count":3,"level":5,"url":"item?id=49352202"}],"comments_count":4,"level":4,"url":"item?id=49351611"}],"comments_count":6,"level":3,"url":"item?id=49351393"}],"comments_count":8,"level":2,"url":"item?id=49350367"}],"comments_count":9,"level":1,"url":"item?id=49350112"}],"comments_count":10,"level":0,"url":"item?id=49348171"}],"comments_count":11,"url":"item?id=49348077"}

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