Comment by metabagel
1 day ago
> DURAN: In April 2009, Peter Thiel wrote an essay in which he said he no longer believed that freedom and democracy were compatible and suggested that women and other people getting the right to vote marked the end of freedom being a thing you can have with democracy. At least, of course, as we can see for white men, he was talking about. Well, this caused a lot of outcry and criticism of Thiel, who had to go back and say, I didn't mean to say - I'm not saying that women shouldn't have the vote, etc.
“How the roots of the ‘PayPal mafia’ extend to apartheid South Africa”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk...
Gays like him would have been forced to wear pink triangles in his utopia state.
that's a spin.
> Peter Thiel wrote an essay in which he said he no longer believed that freedom and democracy were compatible and suggested that women and other people getting the right to vote marked the end of freedom being a thing you can have with democracy.
This is true that Peter Thiel wrote ti
> At least, of course, as we can see for white men, he was talking about.
This is spin. He wasn't talking about white men. He was talking that as long as people are allowed to vote to take things from others to give to themselves they will.
And, it can be argued, that in the end that will end up with worse outcomes for everyone. (not saying this is true, I'm saying it can be argued that it's a possibility)
If that's what he was talking about he would not have said "women and other people".
> He was talking that as long as people are allowed to vote to take things from others to give to themselves they will.
The implicit point here is that the super rich, like Peter Thiel, currently have the power to vote (through the process of lobbying) to take money from others to give to themselves and they do it regularly. It's his 'freedom' to continue to that which he feels is threatened.
IMO, what Thiel wrote is essentially that women and non-whites are beneficiaries of welfare and leaches on society, and that they therefore will vote to transfer wealth from the white men who create it (according to Thiel).
https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio...
> The 1920s were the last decade in American history during which one could be genuinely optimistic about politics. Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.
(edited to remove a redundant word)
Yet women are the ones who go through hell and back actually making members of society.
These “pro” business advocates never seem to want to pay for that service. That Thiel is gay is even more egregious.
He was talking about white men. White men vote to take from others and give themselves too. Trump vote was to large extend that.
Thiel is supported of that. He happily votes to take others and give himself.