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Comment by virtualritz

11 hours ago

AI is the subtrate the future runs on.

And so I think the idea is more to understand tomorrow ... from first principles.

In the late 80's, as a teenager, I learned x86 assembly and C because that was the only way to squeeze out enough juice from my shitty CGA (and later VGA) card to programm the games/graphics that interested me.

I haven't written assembly in years.

But whatever I did in my career: it helped me and gave me an edge over my peers to have a foundation that is very close to the metal.

> AI is the subtrate the future runs on.

We don't know this. So many people are simply claiming this confidently, and a lot of them are betting their careers on it, but nobody has a crystal ball. Whenever someone tells you confidently, and without any doubt or qualifications, that something "is the future," be skeptical.

I remember when the Segway was definitely going to change urban planning worldwide.

> AI is the subtrate the future runs on.

Current AI can automate significant amounts of grunt work in programming and math. It's good at running web searches and writing summaries. There are a few other niches where it is currently successful. But other than that, many corporate AI projects are spectacular failures.

So just given what we have in hand, assuming no further breakthroughs, then we're maybe looking at AI being somewhat bigger than the Internet. Which would make it a revolutionary technology, sure.

But to get from "a revolutionary technology" to "the substrate the future runs on", then you need to assume more breakthroughs: long-context operation over weeks or months, displacing human workers 100% instead of 75%, and the ability to directly economically compete with actual humans. And people are investing literal trillions of dollars to make that future come true, without really thinking through what truly competitive-with-human AI would actually mean. We might be looking at massive job loss, centralization of power, fully automated "companies" with no humans dominating markets, and other dystopian scenarios.

And in those worlds, it's unclear that being good at CUDA and matrix math will be all that helpful, careerwise. The AIs are already pretty good at that stuff. Data scientists get paid OK when they actually get hired, but it's not everything college students were promised in the 2010s, either.

We can't yet build a fully-general competitor for the human mind. But we're getting closer. And if we ever do build one, the consequences will be really weird in any number of ways. So I worry about visions of the future that assume AI keeps improving significantly, but that also assume it still somehow remains a "normal" technology that doesn't, for example, render most humans fundamentally uncompetitive.

  • > But to get from "a revolutionary technology" to "the substrate the future runs on", then you need to assume more breakthroughs: long-context operation over weeks or months, displacing human workers 100% instead of 75%, and the ability to directly economically compete with actual humans ... without really thinking through what truly competitive-with-human AI would actually mean. We might be looking at massive job loss, centralization of power, fully automated "companies" with no humans dominating markets, and other dystopian scenarios.

    At 75% replacement of a worker we would already have huge job losses as each individual would be doing what several before did.

    The only alleviation would be the creation of new equivalently paid jobs, which is no better than a hypothesis right now.

  • I keep saying AI is going to prove more impactful than cloud computing but less impactful than the sewing machine and a bunch of people get mad at me.

I don't really agree, I think the future should run on humans.

AI is a great solution in niche areas but generally doesn't make much money. All the large companies are in the negative.

The steam engine was less of a bubble and was much more revolutionary and had a greater impact.