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Comment by 15155

5 hours ago

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Do you have anything constructive to say about the merits of the leave to renew policy itself? Or the zero notice halt of visa processing?

Or just vague gesturing about how immigrants aren’t entitled to anything? (but you presumably are!)

  • They've found their thought-terminating cliche for a particular topic and apply it liberally.

> The terms were clear, visas are a privilege and not a right or automatic entitlement.

They are. Yet can you tell me why you would need to pause all processing in order to retrain your people? Surely they do training all the time without pausing processing.

Your passport is a right too, you wouldn't mind if they paused that request with no indication of when they might resume? And that's including when you're abroad and lost yours. If that happens to you, you'll happily hold the same position?

  • > They are.

    United States Code plainly disagrees with you, as do the laws of basically every developed nation in the world. Visas are not a right, by definition.

    > Your passport is a right too,

    I am a citizen, so this isn't a good faith comparison. Citizens naturally have higher priority than visitors, otherwise what's the purpose of citizenship as a concept at all?

    • I meant that I agreed that visas are a right.

      > I am a citizen, so this isn't a good faith comparison.

      Oh, you still are. You'll get your passport, we just can't tell you when. That's what's happening here. These people aren't being denied, they're told to wait for an indefinite amount of time.

      But basically you're saying that you think this is outrageous if it were you, got it.

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This isn't hard: Just give a notice period if you're going to stop processing visas, so people can sell and ship their shit and break their leases before they go.

Just because temporary isn't indefinite doesn't mean we have to be absolute ghouls about how they leave the country