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Comment by seebeegeebee

5 hours ago

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Illegal immigration does not create queues or waitlists for legal immigration.

But I'll be honest: between the uncited numbers, the clear-eyed, neutral potted history, the italics, and the all-caps "LEGAL," I'm starting to think it would be foolish not to take your argument seriously.

This "they did bad stuff so we have to do worse stuff" idea strips the people doing the second bad thing of their agency. That's false; they have agency, and can choose to do better.

Maybe if legal immigration were more achievable we wouldn't have so many illegal immigrants.

  • > Maybe if legal immigration were more achievable we wouldn't have so many illegal immigrants.

    Maybe if cars were cheaper people wouldn’t need to steal then.

    Do you hear yourself?

  • Agree, right now illegal people have more rights than people coming in f1 or h1b. I don't understand....

  • Immigration laws are like any other licensing or permitting regime. Controlling "who" and "how many" is the whole point. Making legal immigration easier doesn't solve the problem, it defeats the purpose.

    • The laws should produce friction but the right friction in the right places. There are too many arbitrary and difficult processes in the US immigration system that keep great people out of the US.

  • Its VERY achievable. I've gone through it personally and it sucks just as much as legally immigrating to ANY other country on Earth.

    I've legally gone through this process in at least 5 countries and the US was the most expensive, but far from the worst.

    • > the US was the most expensive

      In other words, completely inaccessible to many people who would like a better life and are willing to work but lack opportunities in their native country.

      Just because it was achievable for you doesn't mean it is achievable for everyone.