Comment by RandomLensman
3 hours ago
A low probability thing when looking at how many human prisoners escape by talking a guard into just getting them out. And even lower probability when looking at truly high risk situations, I think.
3 hours ago
A low probability thing when looking at how many human prisoners escape by talking a guard into just getting them out. And even lower probability when looking at truly high risk situations, I think.
> A low probability thing when looking at how many human prisoners escape by talking a guard into just getting them out.
But this has actually happened... a lot. Search "social engineering prison breaks".
With AI it only needs to happen once.
I'm reminded of the scene in idiocracy where the protagonist, going through intake at the jail, tells the guard he's supposed to be getting out today, to which the guard says "you're in the wrong line dumbass" and waves him through.
To a true superhuman intelligence, we're the idiots who are theoretically easy to manipulate.
I didn't say it doesn't happen, but that it is a low probability. And we have ways to reduce probabilities in critical areas.
There is no omnipotent AI currently (and there might never be) and I don't see why with current AI it only needs to happen once.
They don't need to be omnipotent, and they're already human-or-superhuman at persuasion: https://arxiv.org/html/2411.06837v2
This may just be that humans find long arguments more persuasive than short ones, obviously LLMs can do that easily, but the outcome is I think more important than the mechanism.
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Prisoners don’t have much to offer if you help them escape. A malicious super AI on the other hand can probably find you millions of dollars worth of crypto in an afternoon.
The current issues are not caused by some malicious god-like AI - maybe we need to focus on the issues at hand first rather than hypotheticals? (And we do have experience policing people around financial incentives, too. Nothing perfect, but also not nothing.)
I suspect the current models probably can find literal millions lying around for the taking, given they could pull off the incident under discussion.
Tens of millions, even.
Getting them to run correctly is dangling in front of the researcher's noses a carrot labelled "tens of trillions", though I suspect this is an illusion in much the same way that Wikipedia is not valued at [peak cost of Encyclopaedia Britannica] * [global population with internet connection].
> And we do have experience policing people around financial incentives, too. Nothing perfect, but also not nothing.
Yes but be careful anthropomorphising the LLMs too much. They're only somewhat human-like in their behaviour, and to the extent that they're human-like they demonstrate a huge range of personality disorders: https://www.personalitybenchmark.ai
Though plus side, apparently not evil: https://arxiv.org/html/2406.14703v2
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