> ... an Italy-based entity that supplies specialized digital architecture, tools, and services for Antifa cells and other violent far-left extremists ...
> Currently we face three major types of terror groups:
> • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs
> • Legacy Islamist Terrorists
> • Violent Left-Wing Extremists, including Anarchists and Anti-Fascist
It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
From 2020:
> First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years.
Yes, anyone who has been paying attention knows that this administration has been designating people who disagree with them politically or socially, or in some cases groups like antifa that don't really exist, as terrorist groups. This substantially escalated with nspm7 as reported by Ken Klippenstein.
It's also worth noting that the idea of Antifa as any sort of organization is 100% shitty fiction.
It's a fucking hashtag (and the spiritual predecessors of hastags like email label, etc for the years prior). Anyone organizing or "promoting" an event (demonstration, protest, whatever) would label it antifa if they felt that the people who were strongly opposed to fascism would find it worthwhile to support the cause.
Yes there are people out there who primarily focused on supporting anything that opposed fascism, and weirdly some of them know each other. (Strange things happen when people congregate, some of them talk to each other and even form friendships... shocking I know).
The idea that its anything other than people in a scene knowing each other is just as dumb as people saying OSS is a terrorist organization because Anonymous released loic under a public domain license.
CSIS has an updated report. While right wing extremism was more prevalent in the decade up to 2024, it dropped significantly in 2025 for unclear reasons.
I would read that as an endorsement by omission. Maybe too conspiratorial? I'll accept criticism, but it definitely smells like implication (especially given the hard right-turn ICE took in their choices of "apparel").
Also wild that they're willing to just put "Anti-Fascist" in there as the enemy - if you're anti-anti-fascist, that's kind of hiding in plain sight, as if they weren't already. Simply staggering to think that in such a short space of time a country can head off the rails quite so much, but it should be instructional - whenever you look at history, the collapse often happens slowly - and then all at once...
> It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
It's not denied; it's just that anyone vaguely right wing who kills is classified as a right wing terror attack. Right wing terror is constantly talked about, so it may appear bigger than it is.
Whereas in terms of groups or common causes, the three listed are much bigger. Why is it healthcare CEOs, presidents and campus debaters all be shot at (and killed in 2 of those cases) and the shootings be celebrated by so many on the left, and well into the mainstream? There's no right wing equivalent any more.
Those are largely domestic, though some have quiet foreign support. And there’s no law for designating domestic groups as terrorist. The FBI does a ton of work here though
This is much bigger than the banning of a volunteer webhost.
It shows the US government won't go through usual channels when Europeans do things that under european law, are probably¹ allowed.
It shows, again, that US infrastructure is unreliable (in a non-technical sense) and is everywhere.
An Italian bank "sacrificed" their customer because of the risk of losing access to Visa/USD network for international payments.
The I in ICANN is not. It is US. Etc.
¹maybe they did break laws. In which case the US would usually ask Italy to deal with it. But either the US government decided this is too much hassle, or they knew Italy wasn't going to help, because under Italian law, everything was fine: we'll never know. But we do know that the US government will reach into European countries to stop NGOs operating there.
ICANN can't suspend second-level domains, this is up to the owner of .org (the Public Interest Registry) or the registrar of the particular domain (Gandi).
lol. In case you didn’t notice, dissent is terrorism, failure to kiss the ring is treason, and if you want to play in the US market there are some cryptocurrency purchases you might want to do, as a hedge against unfavorable tariffs. Also, for only 100KUSD you can join the official US insider trading chat.
Ever since the U.S. went fash, provably and demonstrably. This is an example of federal apparatus being used to delineate sides for cases in Oregon and Texas.
Not since the venerable Joe McCarthy has America taken this threat with the seriousness it merits. I can only count the days until we get a proper House Antifa Terrorism and Extremism committee.
NSA, if you're reading, please relay this to Mike Johnson post-haste. America is so close to being great again!
wow. your comment is also lunacy, tbh. autistici runs at a small deficit and is a passion project. so they are “yacht people” because they have some computers, a godforsaken server somewhere, and maybe an iphone? and where the hell is this russian money supposed to be?
your fantasy-world ideas do not help anyone grasp the gravity of the situation. they only show that you have zero facts and are filling the gap with random cartoon nonsense.
but sure, censorship of extremely small groups is becoming the norm, and you are here celebrating because the targets are communists, not your kind. where do you think this will lead?
I had no idea what this is, Google said:
> Autistici/Inventati provides internet support to activists and collectives coming from the world of grassroot and social movements.
US administration says:
> https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616
> ... an Italy-based entity that supplies specialized digital architecture, tools, and services for Antifa cells and other violent far-left extremists ...
There have been some posts here lately.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854
> Currently we face three major types of terror groups:
> • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs
> • Legacy Islamist Terrorists
> • Violent Left-Wing Extremists, including Anarchists and Anti-Fascist
It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
From 2020:
> First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years.
Source: https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-u...
Yes, anyone who has been paying attention knows that this administration has been designating people who disagree with them politically or socially, or in some cases groups like antifa that don't really exist, as terrorist groups. This substantially escalated with nspm7 as reported by Ken Klippenstein.
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“legacy” islamist terrorists?
as if a violent ideology that’s been around for centuries simply gets deprecated like IE6?
if only it were that easy.
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It's also worth noting that the idea of Antifa as any sort of organization is 100% shitty fiction.
It's a fucking hashtag (and the spiritual predecessors of hastags like email label, etc for the years prior). Anyone organizing or "promoting" an event (demonstration, protest, whatever) would label it antifa if they felt that the people who were strongly opposed to fascism would find it worthwhile to support the cause.
Yes there are people out there who primarily focused on supporting anything that opposed fascism, and weirdly some of them know each other. (Strange things happen when people congregate, some of them talk to each other and even form friendships... shocking I know).
The idea that its anything other than people in a scene knowing each other is just as dumb as people saying OSS is a terrorist organization because Anonymous released loic under a public domain license.
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CSIS has an updated report. While right wing extremism was more prevalent in the decade up to 2024, it dropped significantly in 2025 for unclear reasons.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-politi...
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I would read that as an endorsement by omission. Maybe too conspiratorial? I'll accept criticism, but it definitely smells like implication (especially given the hard right-turn ICE took in their choices of "apparel").
> the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
It is called "democracy" nowadays.
Also wild that they're willing to just put "Anti-Fascist" in there as the enemy - if you're anti-anti-fascist, that's kind of hiding in plain sight, as if they weren't already. Simply staggering to think that in such a short space of time a country can head off the rails quite so much, but it should be instructional - whenever you look at history, the collapse often happens slowly - and then all at once...
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> It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.
It's not denied; it's just that anyone vaguely right wing who kills is classified as a right wing terror attack. Right wing terror is constantly talked about, so it may appear bigger than it is.
Whereas in terms of groups or common causes, the three listed are much bigger. Why is it healthcare CEOs, presidents and campus debaters all be shot at (and killed in 2 of those cases) and the shootings be celebrated by so many on the left, and well into the mainstream? There's no right wing equivalent any more.
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Those are largely domestic, though some have quiet foreign support. And there’s no law for designating domestic groups as terrorist. The FBI does a ton of work here though
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>free individuals
lol
This is much bigger than the banning of a volunteer webhost.
It shows the US government won't go through usual channels when Europeans do things that under european law, are probably¹ allowed.
It shows, again, that US infrastructure is unreliable (in a non-technical sense) and is everywhere.
An Italian bank "sacrificed" their customer because of the risk of losing access to Visa/USD network for international payments. The I in ICANN is not. It is US. Etc.
¹maybe they did break laws. In which case the US would usually ask Italy to deal with it. But either the US government decided this is too much hassle, or they knew Italy wasn't going to help, because under Italian law, everything was fine: we'll never know. But we do know that the US government will reach into European countries to stop NGOs operating there.
Related discussion
U.S. Sanctions Against the a/I Collective
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391
Also
>Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49474621
basically they provide self hosted foss encrypted services which the US Govt didnt like https://www.inventati.org/services/
both of their .orgs seem to be down
Works for me. Is this a geo-restriction?
We are still living in the shadow of the world the Patriot Act created and continues to shape.
The most consequential legislation of my lifetime.
Everybody and their grandmother uses their services. Are you organizing a non-profit rehearsal space? Create a mailing list there.
This is grim.
I guess this only works because those are foreign servers so freedom of speech does not apply but Italy is doing their bidding?
What do we do now it's becoming clear that ICANN can't be trusted?
ICANN can't suspend second-level domains, this is up to the owner of .org (the Public Interest Registry) or the registrar of the particular domain (Gandi).
Maybe they can now move to a .it subdomain, since they are not designated as a terrorist organization in Italy.
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what ever happened to the idea of DNS on the blockchain?
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lol. In case you didn’t notice, dissent is terrorism, failure to kiss the ring is treason, and if you want to play in the US market there are some cryptocurrency purchases you might want to do, as a hedge against unfavorable tariffs. Also, for only 100KUSD you can join the official US insider trading chat.
I wish any of this was an exaggeration.
I wonder if there are Americans on hn who already self censor their criticism of the Trump regime because they're scared of reprisals.
Idk, but this comes off as a subtle but chilling warning, so I’d say yes?
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No?
Trump can suck a fart out of my butt.
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[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854
So the US government now owns all emails coming into accounts on this domain.
this domain doesnt have an mx record at all
Is it just dark on the NA side if the pond? I still see it just fine...
Once again, the crime is providing encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing.
Uncle Sam really, really, really wants to terrify as many providers are possible into letting them peek into your personal correspondence.
This is why decentralized end to end encryption methods are so important
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whoo hooo, I've had an unused account there. guess I'm on yet another list, woe betide me.
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Ever since the U.S. went fash, provably and demonstrably. This is an example of federal apparatus being used to delineate sides for cases in Oregon and Texas.
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Not since the venerable Joe McCarthy has America taken this threat with the seriousness it merits. I can only count the days until we get a proper House Antifa Terrorism and Extremism committee.
NSA, if you're reading, please relay this to Mike Johnson post-haste. America is so close to being great again!
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yeah, those fuckign terrorists! smh
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Ahem... are you joking?
They're LARPing, must have escaped from Twitter
American lunatics fighting with Italian punkabbestia on a yacht, all surrounded with confetti from Russian money. You guys want some prosecco?
wow. your comment is also lunacy, tbh. autistici runs at a small deficit and is a passion project. so they are “yacht people” because they have some computers, a godforsaken server somewhere, and maybe an iphone? and where the hell is this russian money supposed to be?
your fantasy-world ideas do not help anyone grasp the gravity of the situation. they only show that you have zero facts and are filling the gap with random cartoon nonsense.
but sure, censorship of extremely small groups is becoming the norm, and you are here celebrating because the targets are communists, not your kind. where do you think this will lead?