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Comment by WalterBright

15 hours ago

> If you call via a function pointer, how do you supply the pointer to the data?

D has the notion of a "delegate", which is a (function pointer) and (context pointer) pair. This is incredibly useful, because delegates can:

1. call nested functions that need a pointer to the stack frame of the nestee function

2. call member functions that need `this` pointer

3. call lambdas

4. call COM member functions

The neato thing about this is the ABI for delegates is all the same, so a function that gets a delegate parameter will work with any of 1..4. It's one of the most used features of D.

Yes, that’s the “ABI” alternative that I was referring to.

  • This is why I want to have such a feature in C. It would be extremely useful for language interoperability.

    But because ISA was mentioned, x86 does indeed even have native support for this: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20231211-00/?p=10... These instructions are not too useful though and I do not think anybody uses them.

    • This feature would IMO violate the contract that C allows you to specify memory layout of objects, to some level of detail (I am being a little vague about the “level of detail”).

      Supporting closures, more or less, requires design decisions that are equivalent to choosing a specific layout for objects in an object-oriented language. C, as it is, makes none of these assumptions and you can translate a lot of different language ABIs into some C code (that may be clumsy). Keeping the abstraction that function pointers = pointers to entry points for functions, well, that’s frustrating for C programmers writing C programs, but extremely useful for interoperability.

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