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Comment by Aurornis

14 hours ago

> What is different here?

I don’t understand how this is a question.

What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without warning. It’s functionally equivalent to opting in to giving all user accounts root privileges, which is not what anyone expects the default configuration to be.

You can choose to configure your installs this way if you choose to do so. It should not come this way quietly by default.

More like a company that had hundreds of millions of dollars and a couple decades should have fixed it by now.

If only Podman could beat Docker in advertising…

  • First they should try making a solution that works as well as Docker. Every time I use Podman or Podman Desktop I run into the most basic problems. Docker works out of the box everywhere.

    • I don't use Podman desktop but I haven't had any issues at all with basic Podman. It just seems like a better overall design. It would be great if Docker copied the rootless / daemonless approach if possible.

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The whole point of Omarchy is for people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does.

So I think it's a little different. Anybody using an opinionated respin should understand what they're getting.

  • The Omarchy team admitted it was a mistake and corrected it quickly.

    It’s strange that so many people are trying to call this security error intentional.

    • It might be a mistake but not a serious one, like it's a common setting they had on for convenience of development without being too insecure, but forgot to leave it out of public release.

      So there's nothing weird. It being on originally was intentional and not crazy. Only it going all they way wasn't.

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  • > people who want to use Arch Linux but have it configured the way DHH does

    Then they don't actually want to use Arch Linux.

    The Arch Linux way is to read the excellent wiki documentation, learn about all the choices available, and then make all of those choices so the system is configured the user's way instead of some celebrity's way.

    • I like and use Arch daily. My "way" was just to get past the fdisk squirrel catcher. After that it was as easy as Ubuntu. I'm not bragging, I wish I'd read the manual but was too impatient for that. I suspect I'm not the only arch user that arrived at it using similar approaches. I might even be a target user for DHH's distro but the bloat (and to some extent the vibe coding) holds me back.

    • > Then they don't actually want to use Arch Linux.

      No, they want to use Arch Linux as configured by DHH

    • Actually we do. I like pacman for example. And don't mind going thru archinstall for a test install once to learn. But my workstation, I'd not like to have to develop, even if I do like configuring minimal installs for other uses like kiosks.

  • What exactly is special about rolling a custom arch in this instance? Like, why does this get so much attention? Do web developers really care about what DHH does that much?

    Like, I get it if thats the case. Say, if Chris Lattner or Andrej Karpathy rolled some ML GPU programming distro I'd probably care about it and try and see if it made me more productive.

It does warn you. It's an opinionated Linux for a modern developer/user. This modification absolutely makes sense in that context.

  • I hope this was an attempt at sarcasm.

    The Omarchy team immediately fixed this because it was a security oversight, not an intentional opinionated choice.

    • There was no oversight and no security. It's vibe-coders pushing unvetted shell scripts and dotfiles.

      They "immediately fixed it" after it blew up on X/Twitter. Just like all the other issues they've had in the past few weeks.

      And now they formed a "security team" lol.

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    • Imo they could have sold it like that, in this case. A warning would be in order though.

    • Opinionated choice?

      I recently used Arch Linux because I have a 4 GiB Mac Air that I want to use for something but it has too little RAM for UI. The installer was user friendly and fast. I got exactly what I wanted.

      I don't think that I need Omarchy.

      I have only one answer to this:

      I'm too old for this shit.