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Comment by totallymike

3 hours ago

Why is cloudflare a problem?

Because they slow down and often block access to websites, particularly for people that try to avoid being fingerprinted or otherwise tracked. Pretty evil behavior.

  • It is very challenging to distinguish individuals interested in privacy from bots acting maliciously or with reckless indifference. If you devise a way to do this more effectively than Cloudflare, you should start a business to sell this as a service.

    • Sure, I am practicing understanding for the tyranny around me everyday when I wake up, as a meditation exercise.

      Answers like yours kill the little remaining faith I have in people.

      This same argument has been used to defend sloppily implemented CAPTCHAS destroying accessibility since what, 20 years.

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  • Don't listen to these hecklers, you have every right to your privacy, and should demand it. Anonymity is paramount if people want to be able to talk without repercussions. Gaslighting, heckling and other forms of harassment are to convince you to self censor. Don't take the bait. Ignore them.

  • "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

    • Hanlon's Razor is especially effective at getting Good people to put out their own eyes to keep them nice and soft targets for the malicious. I'll take being a harder to find likable by people I have no desire to be liked by to make myself a harder mark. The honest ones will understand. The malicious were never worth being close with, and I'm doing the world a service by getting the borderline enlightened.

      Sufficiently advanced stupidity being indistinguishable from malice is also something to keep in mind.

  • > Because they slow down and often block access to websites, particularly for people that try to avoid being fingerprinted or otherwise tracked. Pretty evil behavior.

    Bots and scrapers and hackers also try and avoid being tracked, which is by far a bigger problem for them and most websites than the 15 of us using tons of antifingerprinting techniques. Evil? No, that's silly.

Cloudflare doesn't reliably let me through.

  • It regularly blocks me too. I've begun search Google for: what does [url] say about [search query]

    It'll make a Gemini summary of the page, and can be prompted for more details. It's really the only use for Gemini I've found reliable. I'd still rather directly view the output of the scraper bot, though.

    If anyone knows a good scraping bot that lets you view the output directly, without running it through an LLM, please let me know.