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Comment by Gerard22Aug

12 hours ago

It's a (successful?) lobbying attempt by Mistral. They are falling behind on tech and they want to win on another stupid EU law. You know what will happen next? There will be an exception carved in for "developing countries" ... like China.

Why would they, both the EU and Mistral specifically, want Chinese models? Isn't the (de facto, underlying) point of the act to raise up homegrown companies like Mistral?

  • "Why would they, both the EU and Mistral specifically, want Chinese models?" Multiple reasons. US behaving like aholes and forcing EU to make trade with China - in any case it's better tnan war. Cheaper inference HW from China to replace overpriced Nvidia crap. Open models so Mistral and Qwen / GLM may cross–distill. (Hint: why libraries and museums exchange books and arts?) Geopolitics, sanctions, digital EUR – I can't even explain to you all of it in one post which will be downvoted to grey again. And you probably have lost ability to think*. You believe only in what Opus or ChatGPT "summarises" for you. (This is another reason btw). Good luck.

  • It’s how conspiracy theories work: find out who could theoretically profit, blame them and spread it as fact. It doesn’t have to stand up to scrutiny, if it sounds plausible “you told them like it is”.

    • That doesn't make any sense because Mistral wouldn't profit if Chinese models are allowed so not sure why the person above thinks the EU would add a China exemption.

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  • The Chinese models are open weights, so they can host & finetune them in the EU. Mistral is calling them "European Compute Units". Mistral has pivoted to become a hosting provider of open weight LLMs.

    "Mistral’s platform will support third-party open models, starting with Z.ai’s GLM-5.2. This and future open models will run on the same infrastructure, regional controls, and service commitments as Mistral models, so customers can broaden model choice without fragmenting where their AI runs."

    "European Compute Units, or ECUs, convert those commitments into access to Mistral-built infrastructure over multiple years."

    https://mistral.ai/news/regional-inference-open-models-new-c...

    • Giving open weight models more leeway “feels” right, but it’s a massive self-pwn based on the mother of all back doors.

      It’s a little bit like saying “sysadmins need work visas and vetting, but this guy works for free, so just give him root and don’t think too hard about it”.

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... downvoting this account to the oblivion may feel good but it doesn't turn reality into "conspiracy theory" LOL. I am glad you are feeling better.

  • Writing good arguments will prevent you from looking like a conspiracy nut.