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Comment by BoredomIsFun

3 hours ago

> It's very possible that it costs you more than a cloud mode would

...which is almost always true in a single request/reply mode and never true in batch mode. Single request usually 2x-3x more expensive than cloud and batch mode 2x-3x cheaper. Now, for narrow tasks, a finetuned tiny 8b model would dramatically outperform SOTA frontiers for a fraction of price, esp. on energy efficient hardware like Apple.

Local is never cheaper than cloud because they can do batch inference, and that means you load model weights once to produce 128 tokens on 128 sessions in parallel not 1 token on 1 session like local models. Local models rarely get to high utilization factor, they spend most of their time waiting.

If you had only batch inference and enough of it to fill the compute to 80% then you get cheaper local models.

  • > not 1 token on 1 session like local models.

    Local models can absolutely run in batch, what are even talking about?

    > If you had only batch inference and enough of it to fill the compute to 80% then you get cheaper local models.

    Even if you ran sequentally, single session, a _finetuned_ tiny (8B) local model on narrow tasks would abolutely mog SOTAs, any of it - Fable, Opus, Sol you name it.

    • > Local models can absolutely run in batch, what are even talking about?

      I think the point was that if you aren't running your local machine at 100% for 24 hours a day then a cloud - with multiple clients - that is, will be more efficient.