Comment by lukan
17 hours ago
"For contrast: Claude disables training on prompts for organizations starting from the 18 euro tier "
In theory also for individuals?
At least I have that toggle to deactivate that. But how would I ever know if they actually respect that?
This post is only about the defaults, and expectations therefore for Team and Enterprise plans and their organizational controls.
If you don’t trust the company to keep their promise, don’t use their products.
I don't trust any company with their word on anything. Luckily, privacy policies are legally binding.
> Luckily, privacy policies are legally binding.
Companies violate them all the time and massive leaks happen a lot.
The punishments are trivial.
> Luckily, privacy policies are legally binding.
Laws are violated all the time. The graveyard is full of people who had the right-of-way at a crosswalk ...
Why does that matter? Legally binding just means "slightly more expensive when we get caught"
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How can you trust any company?
The only company you could think of trusting is one where an external , independent auditor is doing its work.
> If you don’t trust the company to keep their promise, don’t use their products.
Your comment is perplexing. No company on earth meets your requirement. What are you expected to do? Move to a hut in the woods?
> Move to a hut in the woods?
I'm so burned out on the bullshit companies that succeed in tech forcing their will upon us serfs that I'm actively looking into that very thing at this time. Tech used to be fun. Now it's just depressing. I'm ready to go back and take the blue pill.
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What company do you trust to keep their promise?
That is ridiculous. Vote to ensure products have to be legally private and make it a crime to share or reuse your data for anything. This should be the norm that people vote for. The idea that we have to give up privacy so some nerdy pervert can be a billionaire off the backs of people who do the work is absurd.
Criminalize failure to keep private data private. Arrest CEOs and executives. Put them in jail when it happens.
My 20 EUR Claude (individual) had the training on by default.
Yes, individual indeed (used to different but changed about a year ago, see [0] among others].
For the Team and Enterprise plans de default is "not sharing prompts for training" (which I mistakenly referred to as opted out of sharing prompts for training.) [1]
[0] https://claude.com/pricing#team-&-enterprise
Always assume and act as they won’t honor it.
How do you know an LLM provider does not kill puppies every time you send a prompt longer than 14 words?
Because they have no incentive as a company to do that? But do have a strong incentive to learn from user input. (Most cutting edge features are developed private - very valuable to get that into your tool)
And getting the data is not hard, they already have it. Risky is indeed a bit making use of that data, as that requires at least some humans (as potential whistleblowers). But you don't even have to tell them, where the data came from.
Whether they do it? No idea, I assume not, but I see a risk.
We can easily make it a crime to collect the data and another crime to share it or store it in a way that allows someone else to copy it, authorized or not.
People always want to overcomplicate everything to benefit 5 super rich people that got rich taking wages from workers and ripping off retail investors. Please stop the pandering. Vote for yourself and your neighbors, don't vote to eliminate privacy so a rich pervert gets to exploit you.
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