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Comment by vintermann

17 hours ago

Yes, Tantacrul. Pretty weird story, a composer and programmer who absolutely roasted the UIs of well known sheet music dinosaurs Finale and Sibelius in hilarious diss videos on YouTube. Then he conceded a bit reluctantly that Musescore was the better of the lot, but still had plenty of opinions on how it could be better.

So the guitar tabs website which had then recently acquired Musescore offered him a job. Not just a job, but basically to be boss of the whole thing. Then they bought audacity, staffpad and Hal Leonard too. Then they bought out their private equity backer.

I can't think of any other time something good has come out of a private equity roll-up. They haven't enshittified it (from my perspective as a user anyway). It seems in the end these people just loved music more than they loved money.

> I can't think of any other time something good has come out of a private equity roll-up.

Just remember bad news sells. I'm reasonably sure there are a number of other cases where this happens, likely most. However they are not big news and not memorable so I can't cite them.

  • If it happens all the time and it's positive, you shouldn't need a news story to confirm it. People should just be able to think of examples.

    Certainly I'm able to think of plenty of terrible results from private equity take-overs from my own personal experience as an employee or as a customer.

    • Private equity gets a bad rap in large part because the stories they're most famous for are the "PE buys a failing company, and the company subsequently finally fails," with the "failing" word conspicuously absent in most retellings. I'm not sure I've heard one of those stories where the company failed after being acquired by PE where it wasn't already failing before the PE takeover...

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    • Well, many things may be going wrong before PE gets involved, or the owners may be retiring and it just will never be the same again even if PE didn't buy. So it's more likely to feel like bad news even if it was still a reasonable outcome.

      As a public, well-known example, Dell being taken private in 2013 seemed to work out.

    • I'd guess the majority of those success stories are invisible to the end user.

      e.g. simply keeping the company afloat via PE cash.

      If I recall correctly, this is what happened to Hilton Hotels. They were collapsing during the housing crisis.

      A slightly different scenario but Hertz is a PE success story. It was owned by Ford and bought by a private equity firm. Now it's a standalone company making mint.

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    • >If it happens all the time and it's positive, you shouldn't need a news story to confirm it. People should just be able to think of examples.

      Most enshittification I am familiar with is because I read it in the news, therefore if non-shittification does happen it is likely I do not hear about it. I suppose the same holds true for other people.

      If you were correct and people just had to hear about it then people wouldn't go around worrying about violent crime, because of always seeing on the news, despite it having fallen to historic lows. Instead people should be just walking around talking about how safe and non-violent the streets are nowadays.

MuseScore and Ultimate Guitar unfortunately both have some dark patterns around subscriptions and data collection. But yeah very weird situation

  • https://gprotab.net/

    This site is a lot like how I remember ultimate guitar, being that you can look up tabs and access them. I hope people keep uploading more tabs because ultimate still has a larger volume

AFAIK, Francisco Partners was only involved in the Hal Leonard acquisition.

It was more of a partnership regarding Hal Leonard than ownership of Muse.

It seems after the Native Instruments fiasco, they (Francisco Partners) just decided to quit music altogether.

EDIT: I know a lot of people from Muse and Native Instruments and that's the impression a lot seem to have.

>conceded a bit reluctantly that Musescore was the better of the lot

Well he said that Sibelius was the best for serious musicians, it just had a horrible UI.

I remember using Audacity back in 2006-ish, I just needed some basic mp3 editing and I was so happy with it. Has been my go to audio editor for, goodness feels weird to say, decades now, awesome to hear them staying alive and improving. Hooray opensource / PE not killing something good!