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Comment by famouswaffles

13 hours ago

>OTOH OpenAI have their own meaningless definition of AGI as "able to do most commercially valuable work" or somesuch, which I'm sure is not true, and is also not what I'd call AGI.

It's not meaningless. Specifically it is - "highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work". In fact, it's one of the most meaningful definitions out there.

>If it can't learn for itself, then it's certainly not AGI.

Now this is meaningless.

>The biggest significance of anyone at OpenAI calling it AGI is their contract with Microsoft, giving MSFT access to all their IP, is based around them having achieved AGI, but presumably they can't just declare that unilaterally.

They can't declare it unilaterally, and those deals have changed significantly. Microsoft’s license to OpenAI models and products runs through 2032, and explicitly includes post-AGI models.

https://openai.com/index/next-chapter-of-microsoft-openai-pa...

> It's not meaningless. In fact, it's one of the more meaningful definitions out there.

Well, it's commercially meaningful, but it's not meaningful it terms of how close we are to achieving human intelligence.

But which one you care about is up to you. If you are all about the money and don't care about human intelligence then for sure go with OpenAI's definition.

  • It's a lot more than just commercially meaningful. Even if you don't care about money, "highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work" has a lot more weight on "how close we are to achieving human intelligence" than most of the 'AGI' thresholds I've seen yet.

    • Traditionally, AGI means being capable of learning everything (not necessarily at once) that can be learned by the same AI agent. It differs from the commercially meaningful definition in that a standard specific-purpose-built AI can still do most tasks if you give it enough specific purposes, but it will be just as incapable of human intelligence as ever.

    • Well, let's learn to walk first.

      Right now we have just massively jagged intelligence that performs stunning feats in math and single-shotting three.js games, and falls flat on it's face in many every day scenarios.

      And, it can't even learn.

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