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Comment by HarHarVeryFunny

12 hours ago

> It's not meaningless. In fact, it's one of the more meaningful definitions out there.

Well, it's commercially meaningful, but it's not meaningful it terms of how close we are to achieving human intelligence.

But which one you care about is up to you. If you are all about the money and don't care about human intelligence then for sure go with OpenAI's definition.

It's a lot more than just commercially meaningful. Even if you don't care about money, "highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work" has a lot more weight on "how close we are to achieving human intelligence" than most of the 'AGI' thresholds I've seen yet.

  • Traditionally, AGI means being capable of learning everything (not necessarily at once) that can be learned by the same AI agent. It differs from the commercially meaningful definition in that a standard specific-purpose-built AI can still do most tasks if you give it enough specific purposes, but it will be just as incapable of human intelligence as ever.

  • Well, let's learn to walk first.

    Right now we have just massively jagged intelligence that performs stunning feats in math and single-shotting three.js games, and falls flat on it's face in many every day scenarios.

    And, it can't even learn.

    • All intelligence is jagged. Human intelligence is jagged, so is Cetacean intelligence, so is Ape intelligence, so is Corvid intelligence. You could re-orient that statement for any species of intelligence relative to the other, or even individuals within a species. The big problem here is people being so convinced of their specialness they'll just keep sticking their heads in the sand, until we essentialy create God, and by then none of this useless pedantry will even matter. If you can't see we've already learnt to walk then there's nothing more to discuss here.

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    • It can learn very well within its context. And it can leave notes for itself to read into future contexts.

      That's learning, whether you agree or not, and whether you like it or not. Baby steps, yes, but walking nevertheless.