Comment by driverdan
13 hours ago
> If this is truly AGI (subject to one's definition of AGI still)
Scoring well in a benchmark that's called AGI does not make an LLM AGI.
13 hours ago
> If this is truly AGI (subject to one's definition of AGI still)
Scoring well in a benchmark that's called AGI does not make an LLM AGI.
The goalposts of AGI will shift forever. If you showed our current capabilities to someone from 2016 it would be declared AGI.
Is anyone from 2016 still alive today?
If so I'm hoping we can track them down and have them tell us if they think this is AGI.
I'm still here, nearly 50 years and counting. If you had asked me what I imagined AGI would look like back in the 90's, I would have told you "A system that can do everything we can: see, hear, think, do.". If you had shown me GPT-6 back then, I would have said "It looks like a really powerful program, but that's not really what I had in mind.". That's AI, but it's not quite general.
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As someone who spent countless nights tweaking Edge Detectors (looking at you, Canny), morphology operators, etc., building models to recognize 10 handwritten digits, let me tell you: the current set of LLMs (even the smaller ones) seem like magic. I had never imagined a computer would do such things in my lifetime.
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Compared to what we had in 2016 with RNNs, this is effectively “AGI”
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True. "AGI" has also become a marketing term. Achieving AGI has become valuable, so companies will move the AGI goalposts, over and over again, so they can achieve AGI, over and over again.
If you came at it from the perspective of imitating what the human brain does, we now have a very very powerful speech center and short term memory, and vision catching up. The other parts are missing. I‘m sure that’s being heavily researched.
If i suddenly travel to 1500s i would also be considered genius(in some way)
I bet you’d think they are not even conscious.
I hear the T-rexes were still roaming the earth trying to eat us cavemen in 2016.
talking about self proclaimed, it's about as much AGI as openAI is open.
What test do you propose as the actual go/no-go gauge to verify if some model is or is not AGI?
If you’re talking some nonsense, silly singularity… than whatever, don’t care.
But if you’re asking when a model has a sustainable general intelligence, for me, it’s pretty easy…
When it makes financial sense to run it 24 hours a day.
I can have Astra run a large-scale infrastructure migration 24/7 (much of the time waiting for results), completing it in weeks or even months faster than I could before agentic AI.
What does it mean to run a model 24 hours a day?
Aren't we way way past that already? QPS to any of the frontier models for a given point in time is most likely (far) greater than zero.
For whom? That is a fantastically ill-defined test. Everyone here is comfortable throwing around this or that is or isn't AGI which is fun because, at the same time, nobody seems to have a testable definition.
It makes either position pointless to argue.
I mean the laundromat runs the machines pretty much 24 hours a day but a washing machine is not AGI.
Directly - something can be useful without being AGI.
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There can be no such test because “AGI” is (or has become) a pseudo-philosophical/socio-political concept rather than a scientific one.
It always has been. The idea around here that we can actually define intelligence and point to it is sophomoric and incredibly frustrating.
But they declared it...
“I declare bankruptcy!” - Michael Scott
I DECLARE AGI!
"Homer, you can't just declare Artifical General Intelligence; you need to like, make something or something...mmmmrrrhh"
did they?
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In a closed a press briefing earlier today, OpenAI co-founder and president Greg Brockman offered an unusually direct formulation of that message, ending the session with: “Welcome to the AGI era.”
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If you’re trying to tell me this is why my mom telling me how handsome I am didn’t translate to the general populous, I could have used this info about forty years ago.
Populace
Hey now! Keep your reason out of their marketin^H^H lies!