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Comment by concinds

17 hours ago

The answer would be more obvious if you used the active voice instead of the passive voice, one of the basic requirements of clear thinking.

> Why did the White House force Anthropic to remove their model from access for any non-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" and the White House has expressed seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout?

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Topfi  17 hours ago

Yeah, probably (let's be honest, most certainly), right given the Admin. Avoiding commenting on my assumptions regarding the modus operandi in current day US politics because I only know it through reporting though and I really tend to dislike when people outside e.g. the EU comment on our politics in what is a very clearly narrow, uninformed manner. So it'd rather avoid altogether and occasionally ask, mainly if maybe I missed something and there actually is anything besides pure old "lobbying" to explain the difference in behaviour.

Still am mainly interested why Amazon ran to the government though regarding Fable 5, I can get the angle concerning the relationship between OpenAI and the administration easily, but not the way Amazon operated. They had more to loose what with their major buy-in by Anthropic on AWS.

  • sigmoid10  17 hours ago

    If you have followed news reporting, you probably heard that SamA was touring D.C. to make sure this release went without any regulation hiccups. If anything, they learned how to play the whole politics game - especially after the Anthropic fiasco. And even though all parties involved are terrible choices, more eyes on a potentially civilisation altering product does make me feel minimally better.

  • collingreen  16 hours ago

    As an American we tend to (especially lately) make our politics into everyone's problem so feel free to comment on our politics as much as you like until further notice.

    • sam345  15 hours ago

      So Europeans don't do this ? The EU is constantly trying to regulate US companies. Every time I click on a stupid cookie notice I fondly think of the EU .

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  • pavlov  16 hours ago

    US commentators are often incredibly misinformed about their own country’s politics because the information bubbles are so hermetic when you’re inside them.

  • ncallaway  15 hours ago

    > I really tend to dislike when people outside e.g. the EU comment on our politics

    We, uh… started a war that we’re trying to drag many European countries into, and we spent a good chunk of the last year threatening to invade a member of the EU. We’re on and off about trying to start a trade war with the EU.

    At this point, you have absolutely every right to comment on our politics, pretty much however you want.

  • pas  17 hours ago

    it's entirely possible that that specific communication from that Amazon exec/rep (?) was just one of many "messages of concern" (and the one that eventually the WH picked)

  • watwut  15 hours ago

    I think that active voice the person responding to you used was more politically factual, objective and did not took stand. Going out of your way to hide the actor is not politically neutral action nor it represents lack of commentary.

  • adventured  17 hours ago

    Anthropic has the appearance/rep of being non-cooperative with the military industrial complex.

    OpenAI doesn't have that reputation.

    That's all.

    • K0balt  16 hours ago

      This. Anthropic made at least some token effort to imagine a future where AI and humans cooperate in a constructive way and AI is not used to harm people intentionally. They learned their lesson.

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    • nullbio  16 hours ago

      Exactly. OAI didn't bury themselves. They didn't have to do anything special for this, they just had to let Anthropic be Anthropic and sit on the sidelines.

f30e3dfed1c9  14 hours ago

> the White House force Anthropic to...

Careful, there's some dude here who really strenuously objects to language like that. The White House is a building, it can't force anyone to do anything!