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Comment by danparsonson

2 days ago

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It now directly affects the troops and military, who they ostensibly do care about. Maybe the citizens can have a little privacy reform, as a trickle-down treat.

  • The US will still surveil the troops and citizens. All this does is reduce the commercial attack surface for adversaries, privacy be damned.

    • The "buying from advertisers" strategy was a workaround, and has yet to be properly tested in court. Hopefully we'll get that loophole closed soon. They also use it heavily for recruitment to pinpoint the most desperate youth.

  • Trump has demonstrated repeatedly, emphatically, and publicly that he does not care about the troops, or at least certainly not injured/captured/killed ones. Or minorities. Or non-citizens fighting for the country. Or citizens with non-citizen spouses/fiancees/parents.

  • If they cared about the troops, they wouldn't send them on bullshit missions like whatever we're doing in Iran.

You insist on using broad brushstroke language like "masked goons". Nobody is going to listen to your lack of nuance on other topics either.

  • Well you're right, "goon" is a value judgement, but if someone's critical thinking extends no further than 'bad word therefore bad argument' then I'm not sure I could reach them in any case.

    • The precise word choices have nothing to do with it. Even in this rebuttal you're still projecting an oversimplified perspective.

  • I mean, they are masked, right?

    And they’ve been going around beating people and in a few cases killing them, like goons, right?

    Just because terms can and have been used hyperbolically doesn’t mean that the same term cannot accurately describe other situations.

Note: much of the privacy work is done by Israeli intelligence firms. If you think that it's "our" government, you'll be disappointed.