Comment by s1artibartfast
2 days ago
Actor and action conflation is incredibly common these days. If someone is bad and worth condemnation, all their actions must also be bad.
2 days ago
Actor and action conflation is incredibly common these days. If someone is bad and worth condemnation, all their actions must also be bad.
If a bad actor’s actions appear good, skepticism is warranted.
The actor is bad, the deed is good. Though, the open sourcing of llama 2 and beyond was pushed by Yann Lecun and others, some of whom have moved on from the company. Zuckerberg supports the AI initiatives but he's hardly leading them himself.
What argument do you have that releasing llama was actually good? They gave AI access to terrorists and criminals as much as they did to independent researchers. Arguably they are partially responsible for escalating blackhat cyber capabilities that are contributing to the rapid rise in attacks. Open source is neither inherently good or bad. The most you could really say is that it was accelerationist
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Good action can also be a way for bad actors to buy good will so they can extend their other bad actions. Plus some of these actions are done on the interest of furthering the interest of the bad actors.
An example is Meta striking deals with telecom operators to offer unmetered access to Meta services making Facebook synonymous with the Internet in some countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet.org
Actions and actors live in a context. Stop being so autistic and start looking at the bigger picture. You are not immune to propaganda.
>Good action can also be a way for bad actors to buy good will so they can extend their other bad actions. Plus some of these actions are done on the interest of furthering the interest of the bad actors.
We talking tech or Hell's Angels' teddy bear runs. Oh, wait....
No need to be rude. Luckily, I also have room in my brain to hold two entire thoughts, and can acknowledge a deed and it's context are differnt too.
I don't have to take a brain-dead shortcut of claiming every deed is bad. Not even every deed that is self-serving is bad O_O
> If someone is bad and worth condemnation, all their actions must also be bad.
> I don't have to take a brain-dead shortcut of claiming every deed is bad.
What? Reconcile these seemingly opposing statements?
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https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
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Adolph Hitler is often credited (with varying accuracy) with the Autobahn, fixing Germany’s unemployment and launching Volkswagen to produce affordable motor vehicles.
None of these make him a good person any more than Meta’s occasional positive acts make it a good company.
Im glad we agree then, provided you assume neither building the autobahn or affordable vehicles are evil.
My whole point was bad actor /= bad deed.
It's more likely that their motivation was bad.
Like they wanted Llama to kill babies, or what?