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Comment by danielmarkbruce

1 day ago

Read through the article and comments. You are talking solely about pre-training. I'm talking about post training.

Respectfully, you are miles out of your depth. GPT-2 didn't use any reinforcement learning and is often given as a toy example. That release was 2019 and models now go through a various phases of training with different objective functions and optimizers.

From GP, i.e. the context for this local part of the thread

> Autoregressive LLMs generate tokens one at a time, disputing this is just plain wrong.

next-token prediction i.e. the bit built during pre-training.

at no point in your reply to GP did you specify that you were referring to post-training. respectfully, it seems like this one is on you pal :shrug:

> GPT-2 didn't use any reinforcement learning and is often given as a toy example. That release was 2019 and models now go through a various phases of training with different objective functions and optimizers.

yeah. so? the toy example works for pre-training. see above.

  • All modern LLMs that actually get used go through post-training. The finished product is something which has been through post training. So they are not next token prediction machines.

    • > The finished product is something which has been through post training.

      again, the finished product wasn't what was discussed by GP, and you didn't clarify that you were switching to discussing RL (which is still probabilistic btw)

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