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Comment by oleg_antonyan

4 hours ago

Russia had assets in Europe, look what happened to those. We got so naive and relaxed in the abscense of big wars within the "western hemisphere" that some people geniunly forgot what will happen to all of their "assets" when shit hit the fan.

I really wonder why. Something must have happened

  • Not relevant to the point - "I gave my item to my former friend Paul". For some reason or for some other, it happens.

    And miscalculations in game theory happen ("he wouldn't, given...").

    • I put my gold in the safe of my best friend, he has a good safe. Then I rapped and killed his wife and children, and destroyed his house. But he doesn’t want to give me the gold back.

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    • Miscalculation is the right word.

      And: it is relevant. You gave away the relevancy yourself. It is called game theory. Games have rules. Break rules see what happens. Or instead be prepared.

      Seems like someone broke rules but wasn't thinking through consequences or didn't care about them

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  • Case in point: a naive belief in "high moral". Bad guy (Ru) attacks good guy - bad, punish, cancel. When good guy (US) attacks bad guy - that's different, whataboutism etc. Such POV falls apart when good guy (US) attacks another good guy (EU), and while you may chose to ignore such possibility, European leaders don't (a rare case of competence on their side).

    • Possibility? Didn't the US sabotage Nordstream 2 a few years ago? It's pretty clear that the US isn't friendly towards Europe unless Europe behaves like a vassal.

The assets are still there and frozen for the most part (in Euroclear).

Some people would like to see them put to use in guaranteeing reconstruction and defence for Ukraine.