Comment by danielmarkbruce
1 day ago
So, this is the cause of the problem.... People take an intro to LLMs course, follow happily along, and don't realize there is more to it than the next token prediction. And those courses teach how LLMs were built in 2017-2020 maybe. Then RL got added to the mix. The current models really are very different to the models from then - everything that is now considered "post-training" isn't doing next token prediction.
Please feel free to cite sources then, otherwise I see no relevancy from you.
Nathan Lambert wrote a good book recently, and he and his team wrote the paper below about Tulu 3 (Allen Institute). Both are good reads.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2411.15124
Thank you for providing an arxiv!
An aside, I finally do appreciate single column format now, makes it easier to convert to epub.
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