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Comment by ofjcihen

1 day ago

Do you think that all programmers have always existed in the US?

On that note, do you think that all programmers in the US are these Silicon Valley stereotypes?

Plenty of programmers in the US make normal wages for professionals with degrees doing things not at the technology companies famous for their disregard of the rest of humanity.

As someone who has done trades and also “machine shop programming” and jail breaking rural equipment for friends to use I’m wondering why comments like this are focusing on dividing us instead of bringing us together.

It's a universal programmer trait. Let's call them "culturally regular programmers": they are less social than the average person. They lean more libertarian and more selfish.

  • According to who and what?

    I think the entire open source community would like to have to have a word with you.

    • The Open Source community is programmers sharing with other programmers, and it's largely fueled by corporate interests these days.

      The Free Software movement has largely failed by now, as shown by GPL 3/AGPL adoption.

      And again, all of this was based on the fact that programmers were a "special breed" of people coddled by corporations. Now that the corporate mask is off and programmers are no longer (as) special, the whining is horrendous. And the libertarianism still won't go away.

      > According to who and what?

      To me, I've been around the block for several decades.

      Again, not everyone, but the culturally regular programmer.