Comment by aliasxneo
17 hours ago
> living in a society that treats lack of income as deserving of whatever pains and suffering
What does the opposite society look like? Universal income?
17 hours ago
> living in a society that treats lack of income as deserving of whatever pains and suffering
What does the opposite society look like? Universal income?
I’m not even sure that’s a useful question. It almost points at “what’s the other end of the continuum so we can discuss points on the axis”, which _is_ useful, but I’m not even convinced that “merely” treating those without income as deserving pain is at an end of a continuum itself. It’s a point upon it; things could be worse yet.
Instead let’s break away from opposites and into pieces. What would be _different_ in a society that doesn’t judge harshly the less fortunate?
I’d suggest that would include ensuring that nobody starves or sleeps on the street for want of work.
It looks like a healthy extended family where resources are shared towards a common goal of health and liberty.
>It looks like a healthy extended family where resources are shared towards a common goal of health and liberty.
In the Europe, like several rich western countries, we mostly replaced the extended family with the government welfare state, for better but mostly for worse.
So current young workers are contributing to a failing state ponzi pension system that will leave them in poverty by the time they retire in several decades, and they will also lack the care of the extended family unit that was the norm decades ago thanks to collapsed birth rates. Double whammy.
Doesn’t sound very much like a healthy family to me
What if health and liberty to someone looks like them not providing any net positive to society? What compels someone to work 12 hours a day to share those resources with such a person?
Some people look to the nice things they have and think to themselves "I want everyone to have these things."
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You’re making a point about loafers but non-wage earners are always going to outnumber wage earners, and able bodied loafers are a minute fraction of who we must provide for (the young, the elderly, students, the disabled, etc)
Sounds like an unhealthy person and situation such that 12 hours of labor is mandatory
Step one would be to help them get into a situation where that wasn’t true
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