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Comment by petcat

1 hour ago

> salivating at the thought to prove to our EU neighbors how strong we meant it when we said we would accept to oppose the US in case of military attack and I think they knew we may actually mean it and not back down when it start

No offense to France, I don't really care one way or another, but didn't Macron also say he would deploy French troops in Ukraine? Where are those troops? Surely Ukraine is an "EU neighbor". They're currently suffering from an actual aggressor (Putin), not merely theoretical (Trump).

France says a lot of things.

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Someone  1 hour ago

> didn't Macron also say he would deploy French troops in Ukraine?

AFAIK, he said he didn’t rule out doing that while the war was ongoing (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/27/europe/france-macron-troo...), and he signed a declaration of intent to do that if a peace deal with Russia is made (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17zee20qpzo)

Neither are what you imply he said.

  • kelipso  1 hour ago

    > he signed a declaration of intent to do that if a peace deal with Russia is made

    Interesting. Thanks for letting me know a Ukraine-Russia peace deal will never be signed.

nolok  1 hour ago

> didn't Macron also say he would deploy French troops in Ukraine?

No he did not, he said he refused to rule it out: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/27/french-preside...

So I would recommend making sure to inform yourself properly rather than assuming what you read (or thought you read) is correct

> Surely Ukraine is an "EU neighbor". They're currently suffering from an actual aggressor (Putin), not merely theoretical (Trump).

But as you said, they're NOT EU, not in an official military alliance with France. If you cannot see the difference between the two situation, I can't make it any clearer for you.

If you're saying "we should do the same for those that are out that for those that are in", what you are saying is "being in has no purpose, why take the commitment". I believe your point of view is as wrong as can be.

  • petcat  1 hour ago

    > The situation in Ukraine, which has been under invasion by Russian troops for the past two years, was deteriorating. The war was getting bogged down. "In any case, in the coming year, I'm going to have to send guys to Odesa," said the president before a handful of guests. [1]

    This was 2+ years ago and in the years since Russia has captured even more territory and is now bombarding Kyiv. And still no French troops.

    Again, France says a lot of things.

    [1] https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2024/03/14/war-in...