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Comment by jazzyjackson

17 hours ago

Yes the exponential self improvement folks have never heard of an eigenvalue I guess. You can loop forever using output as input but at some point the result will stop changing (depending on the function)

that's not really how eigenvalues work... they specifically also model the case where the result keeps changing exponentially.

  • The claim is that the RSI operation is just finding a fixed point of improvement,

    RSI(LLM) = RSI(LLM) -- for an optimal LLM* which is a fixed point of RSI

    As for eigenvalues/vectors, they're fixed points of (1/val)A or A*val

    • Eigenvectors represent fixed directions, not fixed magnitudes. From Wikipedia:

      > More precisely, an eigenvector v of a linear transformation T is scaled by a constant factor lambda when the linear transformation is applied to it: Tv = lambda v .

      In other words, repeated multiplication of an eigenvector by a matrix can still create exponential growth.

>AI "recursively" improving itself in some exponential fashion until there is a bright flash of white light

Sounds like repetitive stress to me.

>loop forever using output as input but at some point the result will stop changing

Running in place will eventually wear you out too. Plus with some things it can be difficult to know for sure if that's where you are at the time.

Even worse may be if you were almost running in place, it could be orders of magnitude more difficult to discern, especially if the scale was massive to an unprecedented degree.