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Comment by nadetastic

9 hours ago

> Applied statistics is a far more precise descriptor, “but no one wants to use that term, because it’s not as sexy.”

This really hit me some time back when I was explaining AI to a friend. After about 10 mins of rambling about LLMs and mentioning the attention paper like I knew what I was talking about, it ended with “oh so it’s just a really advanced auto correct”

As an MLE I feel these takes are too reductionist.

You could say the (nearly) same thing about search. And content recommendation. And clustering. And topic modeling. And outlier detection. And spam filtering. And image diffusion. And dimension reduction. And...

There's a lot in common between these things, but there's also a lot cool and different!

For transformers in particular, it's pretty cool that you get some WILD emergent properties simply from scaling up.

So yes, it's just a next token predictor, but I'm just a bundle of nerves and meat. I don't get a lot out of those descriptions.

  • Some concrete facts about LLMs are explained by their next token predictor nature. Every time it says "wait, that's wrong." instead of generating the correct thing the first time.

    • I think that's relatively emergent too though! BERT never really did that (at least to my recollection), presumably because its training was never sufficient for it to develop corrective reasoning in a chain of thought.

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  • It's a little different than that. Your bundle of nerves and meat is not static. It changes over time.

    To me the heart of the "next token predictor" is that the distributions are static. You can manipulate what you feed into it through context (and a lot of interesting engineering has been applied there through CoT and other techniques to manipulate the prompt). But these models as implemented will never be able try things and learn from mistakes or adapt. They are a set of weights frozen in time. A set of distributions derived from the original data that created them.

    • That's not quite true though. The fact that most models are in practice non-deterministic has been a huge point of contention.

      And there's nothing inherently stopping labs from continuously fine-tuning the weights after every new invocation. It's just a difficult (not to mention expensive) software and ML problem.

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LLMs are applied statistics in the exact same way that you are applied statistics.