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Comment by junofan

4 hours ago

Their privacy policy for normie subscribers says in plain English they use your Personal Data for research. I think it’s pretty unreasonable to use the service and expect otherwise.

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hansvm  4 hours ago

My doctor's privacy policy is a bit more abusive than OpenAI's. It exists mostly because of a $%^&&* legal framework rather than malice, and I've grown accustomed to "if I don't want to die then I sign away these rights." Despite my having theoretically signed my soul away, my doctor isn't selling personal information to my exes or to life insurance companies (though they could in the US; that extremely personal information is no longer mine). OpenAI is engaging in the "technically legal maybe we'll see but obviously unintended" side of this transaction, and maybe that works out for them, but I wouldn't personally choose to be a shill for "it's unreasonble to expect somebody with 'legal' permission to do something other than the maximum 'legally' permitted" if I were in your shoes.

grey-area  4 hours ago

I think those are pretty unreasonable terms and it’s sad that you’re defending them.

Does google docs own the content of docs you make with it? Does Apple claim ownership of discoveries made using their tools?

sdcfgy  4 hours ago

If that is the case, why on earth would you use it in any professional setting?

  • eru  4 hours ago

    Depends on your profession? I sometimes work on open source code as part of my professional duties. Nothing that goes on there is necessary to keep private.

  • ragebol  4 hours ago

    Because it's cheap and easy. Hold for many such questions...

    Why is all of the world dependent on tech an ever more hostile US? Same answer.

  • Simran-B  4 hours ago

    Aren't business consulting firms even worse? They are explicitly for business and there are known cases where they shared confidential information of one of their customers with another one.

  • jonathanstrange  2 hours ago

    I have the setting turned on in Gemini Pro even though I work on proprietary code because 1. the setting allows for some (very limited) "memory", and 2. I consider my source code almost public even when it's not open source because I don't work on programs that involve extremely high level of know how or proprietary algorithms. It's mostly CRUD that can be copied in a myriad of ways, whether people use my methods or other methods.

    If Gemini can improve based on my code and sessions (maybe doubtful but who knows) and others can benefit from it, that would be a welcome side-effect.

andersmurphy  4 hours ago

You'd think theft would still be illegal regardless of what a privacy policy says.

  • georgemcbay  4 hours ago

    > You'd think theft would still be illegal regardless of what a privacy policy says.

    I wish that were true, but I live in the United States and it is 2026.

    The President of the United States rug-pulls memecoin crypto and regularly pardons people like Paul Walczak (who was convicted of massive payroll fraud) in exchange for large donations.

    I wouldn't make any assumptions about what is considered theft anymore, at least not when it is being committed by people who have enough money to be above the law.