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Comment by throw0101a

13 hours ago

Fewer than drivers, given that drivers tend to ignore the rules of the road more per a Danish government study:

* https://politiken.dk/danmark/art7185605/Rygterne-om-cykliste...

* Via: https://archive.is/https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/...

And perhaps more drivers should take up some cycling as it would make them better drivers (per a UK insurance company)

* https://archive.is/https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/...

Or using motorcycles or scooters: 2013 and 2015 UK insurance reports found riders better motorists than drivers, as did a 2014 UK police chiefs survey.

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socalgal2  13 hours ago

Ridiculous and trivially provably false. (maybe Danish are different)

Go to any intersection in SF or LA. Set up a camera. Count the number of cars and cyclists that break a traffic law. Cars will be 5-10% breaking the laws. Cyclists will be 95-97% breaking the laws.

  • throw0101a  13 hours ago

    > […] Set up a camera. […]

    That's what a bunch of researchers did in Florida and found cyclists more compliant:

    > According to the study, bicyclists were in compliance with traffic laws 88 percent of the time during the day and 87 percent of the time at night. The observed compliance rate for drivers who interacted with participants was slightly lower, at 85 percent during the day. (There weren’t enough nighttime driver observations to report a compliance rate.)

    * https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b...

    * https://web.archive.org/web/20180127052846/http://www.fdot.g...

  • Zambyte  12 hours ago

    My apartment overlooks a three way intersection. Drivers block the box almost every light cycle in rush hour. The most common traffic offense I see bikers make is riding on the sidewalk, which they obviously do because they fear being killed by drivers.

  • crisnoble  13 hours ago

    Please go do it then. I've done this in San Diego, it was 19/20 failing to stop for cars, the one who did failed to stop behind the painted line. There were only 2 cyclists and they also slowly rolled through the intersection.

  • TulliusCicero  10 hours ago

    Yeah, it's not like drivers text while driving, go over the speed limit, fail to signal, fail to fully stop at stop signs, run red lights, tailgate, or park in the bike lane, right?