Comment by dofm
10 hours ago
It doesn’t use the caveman speak unless reasoning is set to xhigh, in my experience. But I don’t know if it has always been coincidental.
10 hours ago
It doesn’t use the caveman speak unless reasoning is set to xhigh, in my experience. But I don’t know if it has always been coincidental.
> unless reasoning is set to xhigh
That's the default and I'm sure almost everyone else is also using it because other reasoning efforts yield subpar results from what I've seen.
It is the default, which is insane.
I think it is clear that medium reasoning has more 'loopy' results like the older Qwens, but I actually think the low effort results are usually more appropriate.
If you plan to one-shot and vibe code AI slop to meet benchmarks, maybe xhigh makes sense. But if you want a responsive agentic coding assistant it is, to me, quite evidently the wrong choice, especially on modest hardware.
I have seen xhigh radically distract itself with rabbitholes and write considerably worse code than low.
It is my own opinion only, but I think much of the fuss about squeezing Qwen 3.8 27B into small local hardware setups, Macs etc., is a bit misguided.
There's too much focus on its benchmark scores, its one-shot capability, canned demos etc.
For my own needs Muse Glimmer (again on reasoning strength: low) is shaping up to being the more practical agentic tool. It is considerably faster than Qwen at solving real coding tasks.