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Comment by Computer0

7 hours ago

As a child I did not see it as violent

> As a child I did not see it as violent

That's the problem. Hitting a tied up animal until it breaks is clearly a violent affair, similar how hanging puppets in nooses or putting a doll in a guillotine.

I'm sure that there are kids growing up in places where bullfights are common thinking that torturing and killing a bull in a party-like atmosphere is fine.

  • One of the incredible powers of childlike imagination is the ability to differentiate between hitting a piñata and hitting an actual animal.

    • > One of the incredible powers of childlike imagination is the ability to differentiate between hitting a piñata and hitting an actual animal.

      People get arrested for hanging dolls on trees with nooses around their necks.

      Some are prosecuted as hate crimes.

      Do you think this is an issue from a lack of childlike imagination?

  • > Hitting a tied up animal until it breaks is clearly a violent affair,

    I think you will find it isn't a real animal.

  • As a kid I don't remember, or have pictures of, an animal-looking piñata, they were just colorful boxes full of candy and things.

  • Do you see Pokemon as encouraging a culture of accepting dogfighting/cockfighting rings?

    • I mean yeah, absolutely. But a child growing up in a western society is unlikely to encounter either of those. But generally I do see Pokemon as violent and I wouldn't let my 5 year old watch it quite yet. When he's a bit older I hope he enjoys playing through the original games and the OG tv show with me, but I see parents playing the TV show for their 4-5 year olds and I think that's just too young. Same with Spidey and friends and few other shows made "for children" which absolutely promote violence despite the colourful aesthetic.

Children have no concept of violence or empathy or right or wrong. Children often are extremely violent to other kids and sometimes even adults. They kick they scream they punch and they destroy objects. It's on the parents to teach them these concepts and its fun to have settings in which that behavior is allowed.

  • > Children have no concept of violence or empathy or right or wrong

    This is not correct. I remember having a sense of shame when I was 4 when I tried to hurt another kid. Kids will also hide the things they do wrong, because they know it is wrong.

    • > because they know it is wrong

      Or they know they'll be told it was wrong. Children start knowing nothing then they slowly absorb what they're told again and again, and what they see around them until they feel it. They go from knowing nothing, to knowing what the adults told them, to internalizing that and feeling it rather than just knowing it (maybe these 2 concepts fully overlap in other people's minds).

      But until they do get all of that, they'll spend a lot of time plucking wings off of insects, burning ants with a magnifying glass, pulling the cat by the tail, or throwing rocks at dogs and frogs.

    • > ... because they know it is wrong

      No. They hide the things they do wrong because they learnt there are consequences and they dont want to get caught.

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  • I am an incredibly non-violent person, but have a toddler has really made me work hard to understand the difference in what associations we attach to "violence" as adults.

    I try to help him understand this slowly, but a lot of "play" can look violent to my eyes, and I struggle to remember that. A 3 year old just doesn't see it that way yet, and that's fine. But it's hard to remember that in the moment.