Comment by impulser_
6 hours ago
I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world.
Every model release seems like it packed with wonderful research and advancements.
6 hours ago
I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world.
Every model release seems like it packed with wonderful research and advancements.
Considering the fact that Google/Anthropic/OpenAI have WAY more compute and the race is this close, it's obvious that DeepSeek/GLM/Qwen teams are better or we're approaching a wall in terms of progress.
US gave China a gift by restricting GPU, they made them more resourceful. Too much money/resources is often a disadvantage.
Not only compute, but more money and people.
Often times these limitations for you to be creative. When you can't just throw more processing power at the problem you figure other things out.
> I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world.
It's pretty clear they're the best at what they're optimizing for - which does seem aligned with what a lot of people on HN want from models - but not everyone...
They're likely operating with 100x less compute than OpenAI.
On top of that, they don't make all BS statements or malicious tricks used by some unnamed entities.
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Basically, the nice folks at OpenAI or Anthropic saying: "You distilled from our model which is built on the stolen data that we ourselves suctioned up from the entire internet without regard to copyright law! Only we get to vacuum up the whole internet. That's our special prerogative.".
You should read their research papers
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> Yes comrade, they are the best.
> Did you do your daily data centers errrr baaaaddd AI generated post for Facebook?
Please stop insulting people. I'm all for heated discussion, but you are not discussing, you insult.
Now go away, before your insults come back to you, "comrade from Facebook".