Comment by hgoel
5 hours ago
The companies talking the most about safety and regulations aren't even properly taking the obvious measures. Shows that it's more of a marketing thing than something they take seriously.
5 hours ago
The companies talking the most about safety and regulations aren't even properly taking the obvious measures. Shows that it's more of a marketing thing than something they take seriously.
I don’t think it’s marketing alone. I do genuinely think safety was a priority when they were small. But I’d be a fool to ignore that greed has taken over and their inner competitiveness doesn’t let them fall behind a competitor.
DeepSeek is maybe the only unique company here. They are content with exactly where they are. They don’t want to grow ginormous. Their goal is to be the affordable workhorse and their competition is with themselves. They’ve mentioned before how their business is profitable and all hardware costs get absorbed in 10 months. Pretty incredible. I have a ton of respect for their unassuming founder.
I also like DeepSeek, but I'll note their stated goal is to develop AGI, and the founder (already China’s fifth-richest person) has stated, "I believe the business opportunities here are large enough-if the AI era will produce many trillion-dollar companies, I think we will be one of them."[1] These are not humble ambitions.
[1] https://liangwenfeng.art/ch11.en
"But but but China..." or something.
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Similar to countries putting democratic in their name being the least democratic, like the Deutsche Demokratische Republik and Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.
If I operate a nuclear reactor or a hydroelectric dam there are regulators that tell me what i'm allowed to do, so as to keep my profit motive from overwhelming the public interest.
If we want AI to actually have some safety rails, this is what we would do.
If we were to take the nuclear analogy, what's happening in AI right now is where the people selling nuclear power make a ton of noise about how they need the power to regulate their competitors because nuclear bombs might set the atmosphere on fire, and their proof for this is in a report about how they didn't wear TLDs despite it being common practice in all related industries.
Some controls are justifiable, but none of the people involved in any of this can be trusted to develop sane controls. Most likely we're looking at draconian proposals similar to attempted regulations on 3d printers.
its clocktower syndrome. they are fucked in the head and can beg us to stop them but cant stop themselves