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Comment by robotpepi

20 hours ago

> but right now there's no credible evidence, only claims.

since it's openAI who has the evidence (in the form of chain of thoughts, their internal processes, etc etc), it's on them to justify why they're innocent. but they've released nothing at all. we don't even know how hard they tried.

you're being naive

OpenAI has said that their models were definitely not trained on any of Buckmaster's sessions after July 3rd (from https://archive.ph/75WcF); likely they found that's when he switched the "allow training" setting off.

  • Very strangely, they said something directly contradictory. initially that it was impossible to rule out whether bucmkaster’s conversations went into training data. Now they claim the opposite with full confidence.

  • It's also possible he shared drafts of the work with someone else, who asked chatgpt to explain it to them with training on. Tao seemed to know lots of details of the work before anything was published, though also worked on the problem in the past with big results so maybe just guessed.