Comment by thaumasiotes
15 hours ago
Well, it takes a lot of faith to give that "almost certain" levels of credence.
What do you think about the results of people investigating themselves for wrongdoing as a general matter?
15 hours ago
Well, it takes a lot of faith to give that "almost certain" levels of credence.
What do you think about the results of people investigating themselves for wrongdoing as a general matter?
The data wasn't used, it just does not line up with the time frame.
And for the usage data they do use, when you leave the relevant 'Help improve the model' toggle on, everyone working at the labs says it isn't used in the way you imagine.
You can believe whatever you want, but it's simply nonsense, and I find it wild how you all talk as if OpenAI just stole the work.
According to the latest reports, OpenAI has already made significant progress on another Millenium problem, and perhaps more results will soon follow. Maybe that can convince you that the model has the capability to solve these problems without a need for stealing work from chat inputs.
Oh it looks like I can finally reply here.
>"When you leave the relevant 'Help improve the model' toggle on, everyone working at the labs says it isn't used in the way you imagine"
I have personally deactivated that toggle on multiple occasions and for some reason it keeps getting toggled on, as a matter of fact you can find multiple posts by people from here describing the same behaviour both with OpenAI and Anthropic.
>"The data wasn't used, it just does not line up with the time frame."
Except it does it lines very much so to the point is unbelievable to call this a coincidence,
specially
since OpenAI approached "New York University professor Tristan Buckmaster publicly accused OpenAI of trying to steal credit and pressure him into dropping his research partner." If he was lying about this he could be sued for a lot of money, this just makes it clear they got the solution probably form their research (or where well close enough) and did not want anthropic to have the credit.
>"You can believe whatever you want, but it's simply nonsense, and I find it wild how you all talk as if OpenAI just stole the work."
These people were caught red handed stealing form hundreds of authors and from APPLE they did not care about stealing from one of the biggest companies in the PLANET, do you think they care about stealing from Mathematicians ?
>"According to the latest reports, OpenAI has already made significant progress on further Millenium problems, and perhaps more results will soon follow. Maybe that can convince you that the model has the capability to solve these problems without a need for stealing work from chat inputs."
They would have cleared their name already if they could, if they could they would but there is excessive evidence Altman and the company itself are not decent people.