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Comment by datakan

10 hours ago

Everyones outraged all the time. It doesn't mean anything anymore. It's that meme from years ago about the red ants and the black ants living in a box peacefully until someone shakes the box and they start trying to kill each other. They go after each other and not the one shaking the box.

OpenAI/Anthropic are shaking the box.

I don't understand how that metaphor applies here, you seem to contradict yourself. The mathematicians are mad at openai. If the mathematicians are the black ants and OpenAI is shaking the box, who are the red ants?

  • Everyone that will now pick sides. Just wait, I’m already seeing it on Reddit.

    • Gotcha. In that case, the "ants" part of the metaphor is truly fitting since these people just like to comment online and are mostly insignificant. Unlike the ants, they can evolve and become the mathematicians or get a job at a frontier AI lab but then they wouldn't be spewing so many comments.

      Don't worry about what they write, they just want to feel emotions from any news article.

The ants ARE going after the one shaking the box

  • This time, until they dont anymore. The next stage is people attacking the mathematicians and accusing them. The OpenAI fans come out to attack, then the masses will pick sides and it all just becomes a mess

Everyones outraged all the time. It doesn't mean anything anymore.

Everything is sensationalized, every super niche happenstance is sold as earth-shattering drama, the outrage arms race is so tiresome.

  • Yeah, I'm so tired of people moaning about how huge swaths of Earth's ecosystem are being destroyed and rendered uninhabitable to humans, how secret police are murdering Americans in the streets, how the president is a child rapist who openly accepts bribes, how unfettered capitalism is destroying tens of millions of lives, how the United States is rapidly falling into facism, how civil rights are being systematically destroyed, consumer and environmental protections are being gutted, and entire generations are being intentionally cut out of the possibility of economic prosperity. YAWN! Give it a rest!

    Man, the people who want to just get away with open corruption sure love you.

    • Hyperpolitics is one term for this. There was an article in NYT about the concept. Attention economy for political info causing burnout possibly same phenomenon as Gen Alpha surrealism and viral adoption, but no institutionalization to preserve the lessons.

You're looking too closely. Whether or not mathematicians are actually outraged makes little difference to how this article plays. Hell, lying would likely INCREASE revenue.

What a bizarre thing to say - is that your attempt to discredit anyone that complains about wrongdoing?

"Everybody's enraged, why don't you like this unethical thing being done to you by a company?"

What's going on here?