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Comment by echelon

13 hours ago

Open models and agents can't be trusted without handholding. Astra can one-shot six months of work. Years of work, even.

OpenAI just solved Navier-Stokes.

Seems like the US is on a takeoff ramp to me.

Tell me you haven't tried letting Astra go without telling me.

Astra can confidently one-shot 500k lines of slop, with 800k lines of tests covering it, without testing a single intended product requirement, and none of it actually working.

All models require hand holding. Fable and Astra are no exceptions. The difference is only in the amount of hand holding required, and there's essentially no gap here anymore between American and Chinese models.

I only use Chinese models sparingly because American models are so much cheaper with subscriptions, that it doesn't make economic sense to not use them. If/when that changes, I could simply route to cheapest model that's available at the moment and I wouldn't notice much difference in most applications.

Here are the cope points

1. Navier Stokes was plagiarism

2. All benchmarks were misleading wrong and incorrect

3. All other mathematical advances were again hype

4. HF incident was marketting ploy jointly coordinated by HF, METR and OpenAI (and also Anthropic)

5. Anthropic's HF like incident was again a marketing ploy [1]

Nothing ever happens. This whole thing is a scam. Everything is done to fool you and you have fallen for it. Congrats.

[1] https://www.anthropic.com/research/investigating-incidents-c...