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Comment by Buttons840

2 hours ago

All the worst outcomes involve taking this technology away from the public.

The current state of alignment is that we don't know how to make it only as bad as Pol Pot was made by his parents, teachers, genetics, circumstances, etc.

This remains true regardless of if it is or isn't kept away from the public.

"Helpful, harness, and honest": when used by a bastard, even just helpful and harmless are in direct conflict with each other. you may hate the government, but what about every radical group of extremists that wants to take over your government? Are none of them worse?

None of this denies the problems with governments (if or not they take this tech for themselves and refuse it for others), just that it's a lack of imagination to say:

> All the worst outcomes involve taking this technology away from the public

The very best outcomes involve us intentionally and collectively turning our attention away from this technology.

  • That is pure fantasy.

    • Why? There are numerous technologies we have ignored or abandoned for numerous reasons. Many of the benefits of AI is "requires less humans", but in an age where we question what work people could possibly do in the future, human labor isn't that hard to find.

      If the amish can do what they do for whack religious reasons, people could manage it with ai for cultural and social reasons. And I never saw an amish person starve to death. And that is if people don't get pissed enough to start burning stuff down and instead try to be peaceful hippie homesteader types.

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    • Watch, very soon this is going to politically divide. They’re sowing the seeds right now with “antiai” campaigns.

      The right will for a change be for it but will be able to be talked into regulation because you know “small government” and all only when convenient. The left will bitch and moan about fairness and copyright and automation and UBI, they’ll be the doomers and worldwar chicken littles. The Uniparty will be for it, but only against the public having anything good.

      What will be funny to me is that normal tech people outside the frontier model companies are about to find themselves without a home on this topic.