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Comment by wat10000

20 hours ago

I’m completely lost. I’m not talking about safe, I’m talking about how routing everything though a server gives a lot more control to the manufacturer and they’re loathe to give that up.

I’m pointing out that has literally nothing to do with LAN or Wifi. It’s a problem with having literally any (unfiltered) network access at all. Though even filtered, you’re susceptible to bypass attacks.

Notably, a device can even route all command and control through a cloud service, including sending copies/hashes of all accessed content AND also serve just local (as in physically connected) media/content, if it has a network connection.

This has been an issue since BluRAY at least, where players have the capability to check physical media licensing and deny/brick BluRAY media based on network updates of the keys, and could run Java apps which had network access. So at least 20 years? It is a big reason why there was resistance to BluRAY vs DVD, as DVD was a relatively dumb player.

The only way to prevent that is to firewall off or physically disconnect any network access. Which is getting harder to do with cheap LTE modems.

In this example, for instance, I bet these LG TV’s will happily send all this info even if no one is using any network or app based media streaming at all.