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Comment by swerner

12 hours ago

If it helps you at all:

“if you've never debugged a GPU synchronization error or kernel panic due to some GPU firmware bug or fought absolute shit profilers hunting for perf”

I have done all of those things. As part of my full time job, for years.

Now that we’ve put all of that aside, can we stop talking about me and go back to discussing moats? What do you think are top three things that are holding customers back from buying AMD GPUs instead of Nvidia GPUs?

I could be misremembering, but I think Jensen Huang himself once called CUDA or the CUDA ecosystem their moat, and it certainly seems to be accepted narrative in the tech press. They may be wrong there, and you sharing your first hand experience here would be helpful to many of us readers here.

amd consumer gpus don't support rocm. That is basically the entire reason for Nvidia dominance. All Nvidia cards support cuda even the crappy ones

  • That’s not strictly true, they officially support some of them.

    My 7900XTX is supported, I run local models via rocm all the time recently, mostly to play with/experiment on, Vulcan works as well and for some models works better (or the trade offs are better for that use case).

    Their mistake was simply not picking and going all in earlier, they let nvidia become the defacto standard without even contesting it on both the hardware side and software side and that’s a hard though not impossible comeback to make.

    Long term I think they’ll catch up in capability if not market share because simply too much money on the table not to.

    https://rocm.docs.amd.com/_/downloads/radeon-ryzen/en/docs-6...