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Comment by _blk

8 hours ago

What makes you say that on climate change? I was still prophesied ice ages when in high school, then 12ft water increases and sunk Maldives in university and we still have roughly the same weather.

You have entirely failed to grasp what climate change is, its effects and the timeline as described by scientists for decades.

  • You can blame the media and journalists with sensationalist headlines

We have advanced climate studies since your "high school" (sounds like 50 years ago if you heard ice age prophecies), and at the moment it's like 99% of the scientists working in the field or related agree we're at the progressing climate emergency.

> we still have the same weather.

Oh.... So your local weather is now deciding the global temperature patterns, averages or temperature records being broken year on year?

OMG....

Weather is not climate. Not to mention we really don’t have roughly the same weather anyway.

At some point you realize theres an entire industry around climate change fear just like there's an entire industry for climate change denial.

Then you realize it never really mattered and you reach enlightenment.

  • Oh, then do explain the unbearable temp that we're going through last few years, that's completely not normal for my country, winters not needing worm clothes, and very little rain during the monsoon. This weeks heatwave left us wondering how to cope the next year, which already seems going to be worse

    It makes us realize there are people who gets fed climate denying propaganda, simply because they're not yet going through it. And these people are like flat earthers, blind to see the reality lay beyond them in full view. Or worse sees the reality but ignores it

  • Right, and one of those industries is checks notes orders of magnitude smaller than the industries and secondary industries that benefit from denying climate change.

    Really makes one think, if they try. Would need to ask Claude if there is some real middle ground here.

  • All I know is that in the 80s a scientist I respect predicted that coral would be bleached by changing global climate on a specific timeline which turned out to be spot on, and his advice then and now was that we need to seriously curb carbon emissions to avoid worse outcomes for life on earth. Until someone opposed to this suggestion comes up with a prediction equally as long range and impressive I'm afraid I can't really take their protests too seriously.

  • I've come to the point where I've thrown up my hands and decided we live in a little snow globe. There's no such thing as pollution, were just mixing existing things together. Nothing new under the sun. Sure, that mix might not be compatible with human life, but something will surely take its place. And maybe that something won't rely on selfishness to drive collective progress the way we do.

  • At some point you realise that an $11tn industry, with $7tn in handouts and subsidies every year, has spent billions on astroturfing, political capture, and straight PR to deny the obvious and keep itself on life support at the expense of everyone else.

    There's no both sides here. One side is staffed by scientists, the other by dictators and corporate lunatics.