Comment by beezlewax
3 hours ago
Claude's use of language is hideous at this point. It is verging on gibberish wrapped in important-sounding prose.
3 hours ago
Claude's use of language is hideous at this point. It is verging on gibberish wrapped in important-sounding prose.
It's definitely worse and getting worse. I'm curious, do they not know this is happening, or not care? I struggle to believe people prefer the way it writes, which is becoming drastically different than its competitors.
I wonder if they’re training heavily on Claude generated content or conversation transcripts
People are also being trained/acculturated to LLM speak, so even if they are trained on human output, they could be getting reinforcement for their LLM-tinged crap-speak.
I don’t like how LLMs answer and as they are statistical machines I have found out that I need to check every text they produce. From the first sight everything seems cool. But it isn’t. :)
Exception is code that is so huge output you can’t read everything. But I have to try ponytail skill for coding that should shorten the output.
Fable 5.1 was explicitely supposed to improve that, I used it only a bit so far and it seems at least better.
Fable 5.1 is fairly pleasant to work with, the first in a while. Too bad it's so ridiculously overkill for most tasks. They need to reel in Opus and Sonnet.
Big empty words are probably cheaper to produce than concise, information rich text of the same length.
Maybe the humans are suffering from model collapse, and don't notice it.
Agreed. The language consistently triggers visceral negative reactions from me at this point.
"Avoid use of "mannered" speech in your responses."
goes a long way for Opus and Fable.
The issue isn't the prompt you give it. The issue is that as context grows, Claude distributes it's "attention weight" over all that context, and quickly reaches the point of "missing" stuff.
You can give it any prompt in the world, but Claude's ability to remember that instruction quickly degrades the more you use it.
Yes, definitely load bearing.
Today, I asked Opus what it’s gibberish actually means. It started with (topic about signing implementation):
> This is your coat token, to my coat hanger in the opera.
On one hand - maybe yes??! On the other who the hell speaks like that and it’s so specific…
I’d expect Alice and Bob with locks or house keys. Is this infamous old book scanning (and destroying) affecting latest models?
> On one hand - maybe yes??!
No.
Sounds like one of those "Is to as Is to" analogy questions from the SAT.
> it’s gibberish
ironic
> > This is your coat token, to my coat hanger in the opera.
that is fucking insane
how on earth is Anthropic allowing this to happen? AGI? kill us all? I refuse to believe any of that until they can get this basic shit sorted out, I mean seriously, it's becoming a joke at this point
load-bearing!