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Comment by account42

1 month ago

Complaining that they give money to people you don't like is not a good look when you want them to give money to people you do like.

Because being friendly works doesn't work. Open source maintainers have been screaming about funding for years. One dude comes along, adds some scripts on top of all the work of those maintainers, and gets millions in funding?

You can't expect people to be nice then. It's completely messed up.

  • "One dude" that has been one of the lead and most well known contributors to open source for decades now.

    • If Linus Torvalds published it I don't think that would make it worth throwing millions of dollars at. When you stop paying for one thing and start paying for another, you're making a value statement about what you care about.

  • Framework tried contributing money to GNOME recently. Sadly they also contributed some to Hyprland and Omarchy. As a result, Jordan Petridis / Alatiera of GNOME said they must "contain Hitler particles" to even consider sponsoring... a window manager and a Linux distro.

    GNOME declined the money.

    Framework also offered money to KDE. KDE accepted the money.

    Framework released a computer that ran Fedora KDE: Freedesktop.org Code of Conduct committee member starts crying about the fascism of it.

    Later, when DHH got the Omacom foundation's money pledges in, he contacted Arch/AUR people to see about sending some money or resources their way. They declined.

    Some reactions on Mastodon to the Omacom announcements:

    PostmarketOS dev: "nothing quite as depressing as seeing a fascist get 8 mil and corpo backing to keep building their 'distro' while not even having the funds to hire folks to work full time.

    Elementary OS dev to that: "yeah it seems the trick to financial success is to do as much harm as possible"

    And they go on to compare Omarchy to servants of the Chaos God Khorne in Warhammer. You know, a god of bloodshed and warfare. Blood for the Blood God, Skulls to the Skull Throne.

    Meanwhile, eg. everything I've ever seen of Vaxry has been orders of magnitude more normal than raving about Hitler particles, and somehow he has a multiyear sponsorship to work on Hyprland fulltime, the maker of Quickshell got hired by Omacom, and some other projects they use have received sponsorships. Only Arch declined.

    > One dude comes along, adds some scripts on top of all the work of those maintainers, and gets millions in funding?

    Said guy moved most of his own company to that distro, and he and his business partner each put down a million dollars of their own money. Just a while ago, when the foundation paperwork wasn't done yet, DHH said the Vaxry and outfoxxed sponsorships came out of his pocket in case there was a snag with setting up the foundation.

    > You can't expect people to be nice then. It's completely messed up.

    People seem to have been capable of not shouting about Hitler particles, and somehow it's those people who've been sponsored now that one dude managed to scrounge up serious money. Funny, that.

  • In this case CSS-Tricks got paid $4m first, so probably the wrong entity to be complaining about funding. But maybe the lead editor in question who’s not the creator didn’t see much of that?

"people you do like" in this case refers to a website that DigitalOcean owns. "people you don't like" is a singular (racist) guy who slapped a bunch of scripts on top of Arch and somehow receives hundreds of thousands of dollars for it.

I think it’s a very good look when the people you complain about are racists.

  • The racist accusation has been overused so much it's not just having diminishing returns, it's having no effect. If you can't argue someone's point but just throw labels at them, you are going to lose because the labels lose value the more broadly you apply them.

    And that will allow the real racists to walk right through your gates because you can no longer identify them when everyone you don't like is a racist.

    • The label pretty obviously fits in this case though? No one is calling DHH racist as some sort of slur; they're just describing his system of beliefs.

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    • There's a difference between when people have a platform. Made a mistake 10 years ago? Fine.

      But that's very different than using your huge platform today to spread your hate.

      Pretending those two are the same is dangerous. One of them does actual harm today.

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    • No idea who Jeff Geerling is, but about Rossman: He has his opinion about trans people. Some people have the opinion that he is a bigot as a consequence of that. I don't see the issue with that? Also, it's not like he'll lose his platform or his company over that, so I doubly don't see the issue here?

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    • DHH is pretty evidently racist in a lazily-disguised form, and he sounds a lot like a wealthy 1930s pro-Nazi pseudointellectual when he spouts off.

      He's also spoken in favour of an agitator who appears intent on sparking a race-and-religion-driven civil inflagration in the UK.

      Pretty solidly applicable terms, I am sorry to say.

      Maybe no worse than JD Vance, Pete Hegseth or Trump, but then none of those people are figuratively one of our own.

In this case you can judge for yourself if it's an overreaction. https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a