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Comment by robocat

15 hours ago

Yeah, why you want to know the language strongly matters.

My natural bent is strongly focused on reading and words. Learning by talking and mimicking is not my strength at all.

I suspect that is why I've noticed the pattern that natural mimickers are the ideal language learners (who I would like to emulate).

Although my beliefs are incoherent... I want software that starts with substituted latin letters into a Korean layout that slowly morphs into Korean (maybe choosing words carefully that have been taken from English).

A la Meihem In Ce Klasrum by Dolton Edwards: https://www.ecphorizer.com/EPS/site_page.php?issue=7&page=29

> My natural bent is strongly focused on reading and words.

I wonder what mine is. I feel like I don't take to reading in a foreign language too easily (though I have trouble focusing on reading generally), but I definitely struggle mimicking as well. Some times I really wonder how I learned French at all, I got to my current level of ability quite quickly, though I'm sorely lacking a lot of fundamentals both in writing and in speech.

I agree though, you can see a big difference in language learners on Youtube between those who practice speech vs those who mostly read. For example, Alexander Argüelles [1] is a famous polyglot who's written quite a few foreign-language grammar books, but the few videos of him speaking show his heavy accent.

For Korean, I wouldn't bother with Latin letters. Hangul is simple:

> A wise man can acquaint himself with them before the morning is over; even a stupid man can learn them in the space of ten days.

– King Sejong on (what would become known as) Hangul

Reading in Korean would have been quite difficult historically, when it was mixed with Chinese characters à la Japanese [2], eg.

> 悠久한 歷史와 傳統에 빛나는 우리 大韓國民은 3⸱1 運動으로 建立된 大韓民國臨時政府의 法統과 不義에 抗拒한 4⸱19 民主理念을 繼承하고, 祖國의 民主改革과 平和的統一의 使命에 立脚하여 正義⸱人道와 同胞愛로써 民族의 團結을 鞏固히 하고, 모든 社會的弊習과 不義를 打破하며, 自律과 調和를 바탕으로 自由民主的基本秩序를 더욱 確固히 하여 政治⸱經濟⸱社會

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Arg%C3%BCelles

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_mixed_script

  • > learned French at all, I got to my current level of ability quite quickly

    You probably have some natural ability - or even just drive given your interest. Interests and abilities often hold hands.

    The the other major issue with languages is that our teaching methods are rather hit and miss.

    This is interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2008/sep/02/languages.... -- although I cynically worry that he was perhaps rather better at selling himself than doing teaching.

    > For Korean, I wouldn't bother with Latin letters. Hangul is simple

    I've poorly and unclearly explained the idea sorry. Writing is hard.