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12 hours ago

I can write a chess bot program that will beat you. Does that mean I’m good at chess?

>If they cared to have it perform well in chess games, you'd see a different shape and behavior.

So the things they claim are on the verge of AGI actually aren’t? They need to be trained for specific tasks?

They’ll never be AGI simply because the definition will be constantly updated to be some steps ahead of them.

  • I'm pretty sure "competent at chess without external aids" has been on the standard AGI checklist since before personal computers were a thing. How can you claim an intelligence is general if it can't make sense of such a highly constrained board game? This is solidly table stakes.

    • Because they’ll train it to be good at chess and then everyone will say yeah but playing chess doesn’t mean you’re AGI, it can’t even ____

      It can’t even count the R’s in strawberry

      It can’t even add numbers

      It can’t even solve a millennium puzzle

      It’s not even a chess GM

      It’s not even beyond human capability in Go

      It can’t even drive a car

      It can’t even self replicate

      It can’t even build weapons

      It doesn’t even have feelings

      So how could someone conceivably convince everyone that some system is AGI when there are still tasks that some human or group of humans can do that the system cannot?

      This will only happen, in my opinion, when the model/system can self-improve at a rate that scares people.

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