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Comment by gruez

8 hours ago

So you need a big enough screen to cover the entire field of view at 16 ft? Sounds expensive

Well, first, that's only expensive if you're poor. The world is absolutely full of people who can easily piss away your entire annual income throwing a house party.

But I really mean that if the lidar barely works outdoors anyway then actually you don't need to be 16 feet away at all.

Anyway, one may presume that they've thought about this.

  • Thought about it and also are bright enough not to fall for the “if a single person dies wearing a seat belt, we should abandon seat belts because they do no good at all” fallacy.

    It’s almost certainly possible to fool v1 of this system, for some images, in some contexts. It would be shocking if the first implementation was completely perfect. But maybe it’s better than nothing?

    • The problem is that if defeating it is trivial, then it _authenticates_ fake images.

      The problem is that it makes it easier to fool people and provide "cryptographic" evidence of validity, backed by big tech.

      It's purpose is to stop bad actors from passing of fake as real just as much as it is to prevent real images being dismissed as fake.

    • > It’s almost certainly possible to fool v1 of this system, for some images, in some contexts. It would be shocking if the first implementation was completely perfect.

      Knowing Apple, they've been working on and testing Apple Reference Image for years.

      It being perfect isn't the issue; it's that random people on the internet who are just learning about this assume Apple's engineers haven't already thought about everything (and more) mentioned in this thread.

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    • > But maybe it’s better than nothing?

      I think this will depend on how it gets used. I can imagine numerous outcomes where it's in fact worse than nothing (significantly more effective blackmail, for instance).

    • > maybe it’s better than nothing?

      While that is not quite my bar of confidence when implementing wide-reaching technologies that have numerous unexplored knock-on effects, I guess the calculus must have been different on Infinite Loop recently.

    • I like that seatbelt argument example.

      I’ve seen that type of argument a million times, and I’ll certainly reuse that.