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Comment by 1vuio0pswjnm7

6 hours ago

"Cloudflare classifies bots by behavior, and a single bot can exhibit more than one behavior."

Is that really true

CF classifies anyone not using a popular browser with Javascript enabled as a "bot"

CF fingerprints www users

As an example, look at CF's Permissions-Policy HTTP response header on a site with CF "bot protection", i.e., the "checking your browser" CAPTCHA nonsense (challenges.cloudflare.com). Then look at IA's Permissions-Policy response header. One CDN is advertiser-focused, the other is user-focused

IA = Internet Archive

CF classifies anyone not using a popular browser with Javascript enabled as a "bot"

This is my biggest complaint about CF. They are implicitly supporting user-agent discrimination in favour of Big Browser, instead of discriminating on actual behaviour.

...and of course there are already companies running tons of VMs with "officially sanctioned" browser + OS stacks, that can get past all these "protections", for a fee.

"AI bots" is the newest boogeyman they came up with to take away freedom.

As far as I can tell, after months of fighting being DDoSed by Anthropic and OpenAI across 50+ sites - Cloudflare also allows what it considers "good bots" through all of your bot blocking rules, with no option to turn this off unless you pay them money.